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Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #30 –
Being 3rd for minutes led in matches was from an article I read on the 22nd April. We might not be 3rd now, but the Freo game was an aberration in this respect.

In terms of trying to understand our current predicament, simply looking at wins and losses can create a false impression, either of proximity or of distance.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #31 –
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.

The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!

We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #32 –
Quote from: LP – on
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.

The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!

We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
Big wins? FMD I take A win of any margin right now.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #33 –
Quote from: LP – on
I know I've gone on and on about this, but I think our biggest problem is our inability to have 10+ goal wins, they just never happen regardless of how much we dominate an opponent. We can dominate for 3-qtrs and lose, and when we win we can dominate for 4-qtrs and limp over the line.

The big wins are the thing missing from our equation, too many close results win or lose are exhausting, a big win is like a week off!

We are like a chippy trying to drive a nail to the perfect depth with one swing of the hammer, it can happen but it's so rare virtually 100% of attempts are fails!
Get a better chippy. ;)

I've said it before, but we don't have the cattle.

You can disagree, some will, but what we are seeing most weeks is a lot of changes. This means we don't have a settled side. A settled side struggles to find continuity and trust in eachother which can result in mistakes/lapses, which is what we are seeing.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #34 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: shawny – on


But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned? What's your excuse why we allow Sinclair to play on his own every time we play them?

We have been crushed in every game except R1 as our Coaching department has NFI how to stop a run on how to clamp a player, no defensive modes - NADDA.

And this is not just this year - How many times has the same footballers done little then they play like superman against us.  Check the list below of matchwinners that turned it on and killed in so far this year.

OR: Gulden - #23
R3: Pickett - #27
R4: LDU - #42
R5: N Daicos - #2
R6: Bolton - #43

Agree there is a pattern or you can find another excuse. Look at their games lending into the game against us - they all hit top form against us... Why? Could it just possibly be that our coaching debt is below par on planning and tactics for opposition matchwinners and we have no systems to slow the play hence why the minute a player or team get a run on everyman and his dog knows it curtains.

Nah its cause we lost Jack, Charlie and TDK in the offseason and only got in old duds.

Of course it is.

You get bored and make up the movie in your head?

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But i thought TDK was average and on crazy money - now he all of sudden he is a star and not able to be beaten and shouldn't be mentioned?
Huh?
TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???

Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game.
Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy
All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2.
So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??

Incidently of the players that left
Curnow - #14
The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50.
So yeah, our list got worst.

Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.


Again more excuses after excuses after excuses.  

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #35 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


You get bored and make up the movie in your head?


Huh?
TDK is overrated and on crazy money, doesn't mean he can't teach our 8th gamer a few things....or are you suggest HOK is the equal of TDK???

Again, we got beaten by someone....some of the best players in the game.
Out of curiosity, i had a quick look for top 50 players for 2026 prediction, clicked on the first link that popped up.
https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/47893628/afl-top-50-best-afl-players-season-2026-daicos-bontempelli-heeney-neale-darcy
All of the players you mentioned were in the top 50, including Daicos at #2.
So yes, we got beaten by good players and we struggled to stop them......just like every other team struggles to stop them, because they are elite. Perhaps we don't have the players to stop them. Could that be a list management issue??

Incidently of the players that left
Curnow - #14
The blokes we got in, didn't crack the top 50.
So yeah, our list got worst.

Leigh Matthews couldn't stop Daicos with our list. Not sure why you think Voss can.


Again more excuses after excuses after excuses.

With debating skills like yours, i don't know why i bother.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #36 –
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. How I would love to see some creative and ballsy changes this week.
However,
1. If Pitto comes in, Reidy will make way for him. No doubt
2. If Harry comes in, I'd be surprised if Moir didn't get dropped.
That's probably it. That's the way we roll, unfortunately.
I'd also do the following
Young Byrne needs a spell. Should've happened last week, but they probably didn't want to drop him after the missed goal v the pies. Don't need the hysteria from the media around it. They'll probably bring in Ollie Hollands for him. Shame as Flynn Young is the obvious replacement.
Maybe they'll drop Frankie instead for Flynn Young, which I'd hate because Frankie is one of the few who has a football brain and can kick to advantage,
Do we have anyone to rid us of Lewis Young? I'd take anyone.
Give Cerra a spell and straight swap him for George. No brainer
Reward a guy like Billy Wilson who at least has pace, for someone like Cowan. Who has a good game every 4 weeks at this stage
I thought Williams was one of our better players so not sure why all the hate?
Anyway, we'll end up doing 1 & 2 above I guess and that will be the end of it.
Roll on, roll on

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #37 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. How I would love to see some creative and ballsy changes this week.
However,
1. If Pitto comes in, Reidy will make way for him. No doubt
2. If Harry comes in, I'd be surprised if Moir didn't get dropped.
That's probably it. That's the way we roll, unfortunately.
I'd also do the following
Young Byrne needs a spell. Should've happened last week, but they probably didn't want to drop him after the missed goal v the pies. Don't need the hysteria from the media around it. They'll probably bring in Ollie Hollands for him. Shame as Flynn Young is the obvious replacement.
Maybe they'll drop Frankie instead for Flynn Young, which I'd hate because Frankie is one of the few who has a football brain and can kick to advantage,
Do we have anyone to rid us of Lewis Young? I'd take anyone.
Give Cerra a spell and straight swap him for George. No brainer
Reward a guy like Billy Wilson who at least has pace, for someone like Cowan. Who has a good game every 4 weeks at this stage
I thought Williams was one of our better players so not sure why all the hate?
Anyway, we'll end up doing 1 & 2 above I guess and that will be the end of it.
Roll on, roll on
Williams bailed out and dropped his head in a simple marking contest thinking he was going to get contact from behind, turning the ball over then did the same thing again but tried to disguise it by feigning he was pushed and some of ground ball contests were equally soft and half hearted.
It's not the first time either in fact it's a regular occurrence if you watch him closely over what has been a disappointing career with us imho.
Voss is meant to be big on standards but seems to miss Zac when it comes to inconsistent contesting. Sure he kicks the ball a bit better than most and can kick a goal but down back or in the middle he is a liability and I wouldnt be offering him another contract because he is unreliable and can't be trusted.

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #38 –
INS:
Pitto
Saad
McKay
O. Hollands

OUTS:
Young
Byrne
Moir
Lord


Still no Hewett, F. young

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #40 –
Has barely been going in the seconds...no Hewitt but Lord out... If we're not fielding our best 23 is this tanking?

Maybe a specific match up in mind for Saad?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #41 –
Quote from: rocky – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
INS:
Pitto
Saad
McKay
O. Hollands

OUTS:
Young
Byrne
Moir
Lord


Still no Hewett, F. young

While I'm OK with the outs, Saad??

He probably would've been my 3rd runnings HBF' chosen based on output from the last game.

I reckon Saad is picked to do a job on Nas

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #42 –
Strange selections.
Both Wilson and Charleson were better than Saad in the VFL...and offer youth.
But Saad has the experience.
Not sure whether we're going for the win...or 'not' going for the win. ::)

You would think if Lord goes out, Hewett would come in.

Flynn Young may be left for the second week in a row without a game at either level.

VFL plays early.
It will be interesting to see which of our emergencies line up in that game.
 

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #43 –
I think the selections are about match ups not necessarily form, I don't think Wilson has the leg speed to do the role Saad might be asked to do.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 8 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs St. Kilda at Marvel

Reply #44 –
Saad selection is rubbish.  No form in VFL and has lost a yard in pace, opponents know to push him wide and force a dump kick. The sniffers small forwards will be licking their lips.

And I feel you EB, Williams sh...himself in marking contests and it has cost us games.  Plays across half forward with spells on ball or doesn't play.  His on ball spells have been effective at times.
Cerra going at half rat power still getting games...but lets drop Lord and Hewitt who give 100%.
This smacks of quiet quitting.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?