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Quote from: Lods – on Today at 07:00:16 am

Well here we go.
The biggest test of the year for a group that give the impression their study habits haven't been the best.
They keep making  the same mistakes, and brain fades.

As much as we would all like a win, with the current betting markets very much against us, the general expectation is we will struggle.
What we do want to see though is effort, competitiveness and a bit of leadership from our senior group...and possibly that may lead to a game close enough where anything can happen.

Of the alternatives I don't know which would be worse....an absolute smacking or a game where we have a good lead at half time only to surrender it 5-10 minutes after the second half starts.
One is definitive...the other predictable.

We've got a pretty good idea which Brisvegas will turn up.

Big question is, which CFC will turn up? Will it be the D1ckers game? Aints? Rottingwood? Which quarter will we win and which quarter or two will we capitulate?

The one thing we do know is that we take a few passengers into this game. I speak of H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa is struggling, Hollands works hard but with limited impact... Hopefully they turn it around. Brisvegas don't seem to have any passengers. Maybe they'll relax a smidge considering their opponent - us.

Will Vossy double down on contest and pressure or encourage and back the 'new' game? Until the Aints game I was encouraged by our progress. Then we collapsed back into our 'old' game. I really wanted to believe in Vossy. Hope sprung eternal!

All-in-all, I hope we're competitive ...at least. Hopefully with H doing some ruck time, he'll regain touch and confidence. Hopefully Crippa spends more time forward giving midfield bull work to Hewett. Hopefully Ainsworth gets midfield time. Hopefully on-field leaders develop an understanding that leadership aint about heroics and/or trying to do it all yourself!

Just seen Vossy on the news. His mood at the Gabba was bouyant! Maybe knows his papers are really stamped and he will be released. Free at last ! 😁

Harry seems to be a bit in no man's land at the moment.
He doesn't seem to be playing as the Key forward marking target, or doing his thing up around the wing half forward.

If we reach the stage where we're doing some extensive list evaluation   ...
I'd stick him back in the VFL and try him as a key defender,

Quote from: Lods – on Today at 09:29:14 am

Harry seems to be a bit in no man's land at the moment.
He doesn't seem to be playing as the Key forward marking target, or doing his thing up around the wing half forward.

If we reach the stage where we're doing some extensive list evaluation   ...
I'd stick him back in the VFL and try him as a key defender,

Put him CHF and give Derksen a go at FF

Quote from: Baggers – on Today at 08:49:01 am

We've got a pretty good idea which Brisvegas will turn up.

Big question is, which CFC will turn up? Will it be the D1ckers game? Aints? Rottingwood? Which quarter will we win and which quarter or two will we capitulate?

The one thing we do know is that we take a few passengers into this game. I speak of H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa is struggling, Hollands works hard but with limited impact... Hopefully they turn it around. Brisvegas don't seem to have any passengers. Maybe they'll relax a smidge considering their opponent - us.

Will Vossy double down on contest and pressure or encourage and back the 'new' game? Until the Aints game I was encouraged by our progress. Then we collapsed back into our 'old' game. I really wanted to believe in Vossy. Hope sprung eternal!

All-in-all, I hope we're competitive ...at least. Hopefully with H doing some ruck time, he'll regain touch and confidence. Hopefully Crippa spends more time forward giving midfield bull work to Hewett. Hopefully Ainsworth gets midfield time. Hopefully on-field leaders develop an understanding that leadership aint about heroics and/or trying to do it all yourself!

You have answer your own question.

When you live and die by your top 20% of performers and those players are H, Cerra, Weiters, Hayward, Crippa, and they have given us what they give us this season, we already know what the ouctome is gonna be, so your question is, how effective will they be this week?

The answer is only Hayward is trending the right way.

Agreed, our idea of a leader seems to be based around being the “best player “.
There seems little to no emphasis on helping others to improve or to better perform their roles within the team plan?
I’ve played in a team alongside a couple of very gifted players who tried to do it all and remained aloof to others. Needless to say, it was not a very happy team.

I just don't think we have anyone on our list at the moment who has all the tricks, attitude and ability required of a Captain.

For a start you need someone who will play every week...that eliminates half the side from the 'get go'
Next you need someone with a bit of mental strength and confidence... and woops, there goes another couple.
We're struggling now.
Age is a factor...you want to be looking at a longer term option for our next captain, rather than just the next few years. That doesn't completely eliminate all our oldies, if they possess other qualities and have proven to be pretty durable.
And 'durability' is also an important factor.


How frequently are they injured,or are carrying injuries.
Are they an outgoing type, or insular type of person who tends to prioritise their own performance, often critical of others who they don't think are reaching standards.
Do they inspire others in a follow me style on the playing field.

Now you're probably going to struggle getting someone who fits every criteria, but have a look the list and you can probably put a line, or at least a question mark over most of them.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/teams/afl

Gee, you would almost give it to Pittonet.