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Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #75 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Quote from: LordLucifer – on
I am still struggling to get my head around how this team can play 7-8 weeks of utter sh1te and look like a basketcase so badly.

Next thing we see is against the reigning premiers, once again, play like a totally incompetent busted butthole in the first half and then magically transform into near worldbeaters in the second half and nearly pinch it from them.

What did they drink, smoke or inject in the rooms at halftime ??

What pixie dust did they have sprinkled on them ??

What did Voss do or say that completely changed their mindset and application so dramatically ??

The other big question now has to be, was this a one off 'flash in the pan' or will the raised standards continue for the remainder of the season ??


Not wanting to be a wet blanket but... Or to what degree did Brisvegas ease up, even just a little?
Probably part of it although sides don't ease up that much to allow a side to get within 10 pts with a few minutes to go either. When the margin comes down too much they usually pick up again very quickly.

We play have games to show we have talent, then play have a game with pur pressure rating between 130-150.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #76 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Yep. Stuck to what he is best at, get the aggott and hand it off to someone in a better position... creating an opportunity for a team mate - leadership (rather than kick and hope or taking on 3 tacklers - hero stuff).
I don't think it is hero stuff, I think the problem is doubt surrounding the decision chain for being tackled with the footy. Cripps is playing like prior opportunity does not exist, and just panic hacking the ball forward hopelessly, it's very ugly.

It's clear to me now that umpires have moved the emphasis on the decision chain to the tackler needing controlling the opponent with the footy, which is a bit more old school. You can't just have a midget hang off a giant who is charging down the ground and call it a tackle, the tackler must actually impede the ball carrier's progress or disposal. That is why late in the game Walsh was riding tackles, being spun and disposing of the footy, he was strong enough to stand in the tackle and dispose of the footy. Also, the way it is being umpired is another reason why teams have become drilled at dropping the footy cold, because under the old school variant if the ball is knocked free it's play on even if you've had an opportunity to carry it.

As sad as it may be for the sport, you almost need multiple versions of game style subject to the way umpires are working on the day.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #77 –
I'd mentioned in another thread that our current game style is quite similar to Brisbane, and now having watched a replay it just strengthens that perception.

Really, in the first half the difference was finishing efficiency, we struggled to turn opportunities into goals and they were able to go at 50% or maybe even better. Otherwise it looked a pretty even battle all over the ground despite Draper being dominant, in the second half Draper remained dominant but the bulk of battles were still 50/50, but our ball use and decision making improved dramatically. It's almost like we learned what we were supposed to be doing off the opposition!

Brisbane's clean use of the footy would be the envy of every other AFL coach, they pick the eyes out of half a step of space.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #78 –
Quote from: LP – on
I'd mentioned in another thread that our current game style is quite similar to Brisbane, and now having watched a replay it just strengthens that perception.

Really, in the first half the difference was finishing efficiency, we struggled to turn opportunities into goals and they were able to go at 50% or maybe even better. Otherwise it looked a pretty even battle all over the ground despite Draper being dominant, in the second half Draper remained dominant but the bulk of battles were still 50/50, but our ball use and decision making improved dramatically. It's almost like we learned what we were supposed to be doing off the opposition!

Brisbane's clean use of the footy would be the envy of every other AFL coach, they pick the eyes out of half a step of space.

Some of there kicks are more than clean ball use, they are "Alien" with some of the stuff they do with the footy especially inside 50 (I highlighted one previously that Charlie Cameron did a few weeks ago against Coll)
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #79 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
As an aside, K, did you know -- probably do-- that most of the great discoveries and inventions of human existence were made by bipolar, high functioning autistic/aspergers, depressive folks... and so on? Neurodivergent if you like. Then, of course, you have many great artists (music, painting, sculpture etc.) who created some of their best works whilst on psychedelics! Seems neuro-normals are just destined to be consumers  ;D

I had a bit of a 'eureka' moment a decade or 2 ago when these diagnoses were becoming more common place.
I was talking to someone about it and i said that to me, it appears to be a potential next step in the evolution of humans, rather than something that needs to be 'cured'. As you say, plenty of extraordinary things have come out of it, and continue to.

I'm not sure if its ever been suggested scientifically - it might be well established - who knows.

My wife has gone back to school to study Psychology as she has an interest in it, specifically from her own, and our sons diagnosis in the last 5 years or so. Plenty of friends are in a similar boat. Wife keeps trying to diagnose me as well

As for LCD etc, there is a big push for bringing a lot of that back as it has been well proven to 'fix' people in ways nothing has come close to since. Its a hard sell to the public/law makers and would be harder to regulate properly.

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #80 –
how come TEAMS can go coast to coast from kick ins or defensive position can someone ask the coaching panel this happening for years

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #81 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Some of there kicks are more than clean ball use, they are "Alien" with some of the stuff they do with the footy especially inside 50 (I highlighted one previously that Charlie Cameron did a few weeks ago against Coll)
They obsess over creating goals not kicking them, we are obsessed with kicking goals, some of our F50 are still beginners, it makes a huge difference, I think that is why we have a rushed low percentage hack and they widen the view and pass it backwards to someone on a better angle.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #82 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Wife keeps trying to diagnose me as well
Hopeless case???? :o :D

Quote from: kruddler – on
As for LCD etc, there is a big push for bringing a lot of that back as it has been well proven to 'fix' people in ways nothing has come close to since. Its a hard sell to the public/law makers and would be harder to regulate properly.
LSD microdosing is rampant in some business sectors, mostly IT(Programming / Coding) and Market Traders, the stereotype exists for a reason.

If the current research is accurate, low dose LSD has some serious benefits treating depression and anxiety. The main problem seems to be the effective dose varies widely from person to person, it's not so easy to administer given widely varying tolerances to the effects.

If it can get sufficient funding for the R&D, I'm sure they will get it to a point of being commercial.

The other thing I'd like to see is use of cannabis oils for treatment of insomnia and tinnitus in ageing / elderly patients. There have been some significant studies that show a huge benefit to the quality of living, without the side-effects of some more widely available commercial options. Part of the problem, the companies setup to cheaply make stuff like Panadol Forte and Nurofen / Ibuprofen do not want competition and they have huge political clout.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #83 –
Coaches Votes BL V Carl
9 Ryan Lester (BL)
9 Lachie Neale (BL)
4 Patrick Cripps (Carl)
3 Sam Walsh (Carl)
2 Levi Ashcroft (BL)
2 Harry McKay (Carl)
1 Bruce Reville (BL)
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership