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Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #30 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Cripps' last quarter: 13 possessions, 5 clearances, 4 score involvements, 3 centre clearances and most of his possessions contested. Huge!
He wasn't bad earlier: he and Bont sort of nullified each other, but when the final term started, Cripps lifted and Bont didn't. Bont had 24 possessions, but he didn't hurt us with them. I guess you could say something similar about Walsh: 25 possessions, 4 clearances, but did hurt them as much as Cripps did.

Our best 4 quarter player was probably Ollie Florent. He was huge! 28 possessions, 11 marks and 4 tackles. And some of the things he did were huge.

Not far behind him was Lachie Cowan. Cowan has been ordinary this year, but this was easily his best game. He marked well, he did some magnificent defensive things. He had 1 tackle, but he did so much more defensively.

Jagga Smith was also much better this week. He had 25 possessions and the longer the game went on, the better those possessions were.

Ollie Hollands gut running was excellent. He made things happen by not giving up and running hard.

Billy Wilson was ordinary early. He turned the ball over and didn't seem to have the confidence or the commitment. But, like a number of others, he really lifted.

We've definitely found one in jack Ison. He had 15 possessions and kicked 1 goal 2, but it was more the way he went about things that impressed.

Harry Dean made one shocking error early, but was very good after that. I was really surprised to see he had only 12 possessions.

I’ll add Carroll to that as well, particularly early.
The strides this guy has made are enormous, one of Vossys success stories.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #31 –
Did we really play that much better than last week?

To me it was similar output, only difference was the opposition were not as good.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #32 –
Quote from: crashlander – on

Jagga Smith was also much better this week. He had 25 possessions and the longer the game went on, the better those possessions were.

The thing that stands out for me when Jagga gets the footy is he seems to calm (or slow) everything (including me) down. He doesnt rush when there isn't an immediate option, he scans for the next and delivers. Brilliant.
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2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
 

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #33 –
When's the heat going come onto Bevo from the fickle media? I know they have a lot of injuries but their twos got smashed and there some gaping list holes they haven't addressed....sound like a familiar story?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #34 –

Florent was BOG over the four quarters

Cripps was THE match winner

Cowan provided the toughness that was needed in defence

Carroll continues to improve - did away with the off balance kicking that too often led to turnovers and 3 goals from the wing were significant

Hollands was better than ever with his length of the ground gut running and much better than usual with his ball use

McKay has benefited from the freedom provided by playing second ruck and was using his big body

Pittonet didn't dominate the stats sheet but was instrumental in giving his team (especially Cripps) first use of the ball at clearances and provided some effective body presence in defence

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #35 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
I went along to Marvel last night (which I hate), our seats are behind the goals at the Latrobe St on level 2(which I also hate). At times it was hard to see the other end without looking at the big screen but some of the umpiring decisions left me (and those around me) utterly mystified. In the 3rd at our end, the were some not paid to us in the pocket that were insane. If head office think umpiring has never been better, think again kids.
I wonder if the AFL heavies actually watch any of the games. For if they did, they would have to think differently about the umpiring. The number of frees, mostly to us, that were missed or simply ignored was mindboggling. And some of the ones that were paid ... some of those will give me nightmares for a long time to come. Some of the frees given against H, for example, were more than mystifying, they were just wrong. I've my share of umpiring over the years (when I had two functional knees): I would be embarrassed to have paid some of those that were paid last night.
I know we don't tend to complain any longer, but a few clips of the non-decisions sent to the clowns who think that there is no problem must have some impact.

Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
In any case, I felt like at times watching us play last night was like extracting teeth without anaesthetic. Our blokes seem to know how to make the simple very difficult. Best players for me on the night were Florent, Cowan, Carroll, Walsh and Cripps later in the game.
Our skills do leave something to be desired.


Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Pittonet was terrible in the ruck against a makeshift ruck brigade and with McGovern did not take a single mark all night, not one. He even got out pointed in hit outs by Lobb.
Pitto lifted in the last, which we needed. He found Lobb difficult, because Lobb has the spring that he doesn't. The commentators on the ABC really came down hard on Lobb as '2nd class ruckman', but he kept the Dogs in it in the middle for 3 quarters.
When H went in, against young Emmett, it was a different tale, as H used his strength. The Dogs rarely tried Lobb against H, keeping him back to challenge Pitto, which was probably an error.
Some of the frees paid against Pitto were simply awful, which didn't help. The Dogs scored when there was a free in the middle far too often.
I wouldn't say that Pitto was terrible, as he was one who lifted when it was needed most, but it did highlight some of his limitations. And it was really nice to see our rucks come good when it was needed, instead of being over run.


Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
The young fella in the 30 jumper showed a bit and will only get better, he looked a little lost early but got used to the pace of the game as the night wore on.
To the coaching staff, can we please stop living in the pockets making our shots at goal impossible, attack the farken top of the square from time to time.
A wins a win, happy for the boys to have got the 4 points in a very strange old game.
Ison might not be permanent for a while yet, but he is going to be very soon. The kid has what it takes.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #36 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Did we really play that much better than last week?

To me it was similar output, only difference was the opposition were not as good.
Played 4 qtrs and finished on hard. First time we played 4 qtrs. No run-on of goals against us. Not 8 goals behind during the 3rd qtr then finish hard when we weren't going to win. Took 124 marks, so controlled tempo, better game plan, terrific ball movement when it mattered in the last qtr. So, yes, a better performance than last week. Was a bit ugly at times but that type of win does way more for a side than an honourable loss.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #37 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Did we really play that much better than last week?

To me it was similar output, only difference was the opposition were not as good.

omg lol

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #38 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Did we really play that much better than last week?

To me it was similar output, only difference was the opposition were not as good.

Funny how you didnt notice any other changes except the opposition weren't as good   :-X

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #39 –
The commentary around the AFL media is that we played in a similar way, with extra emphasis on the uncontested kick/mark game. The backbone on the win was contest and work at the coal face. Our pressure was good, no question.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #40 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
The commentary around the AFL media is that we played in a similar way, with extra emphasis on the uncontested kick/mark game. The backbone on the win was contest and work at the coal face. Our pressure was good, no question.
The emphasis on the uncontested kick/mark game provided a nice contrast to the play-on-at-all-costs-and-turnover-the-ball-under-pressure game and the always-kick-it-high-to-a-contest game.  It also might have contributed to the team being able to sustain four quarters of effort.  Not pretty (or even pretty entertaining) but the outcome was preferable.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #41 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: kruddler – on
Did we really play that much better than last week?

To me it was similar output, only difference was the opposition were not as good.

Funny how you didnt notice any other changes except the opposition weren't as good   :-X

Finals here we come!
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Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #43 –
@IAJ and @shawny, you guys really cant differentiate outcome and performance can you?  If that was 4 quarters explain the second quarter for me?
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Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
@IAJ and @shawny, you guys really cant differentiate outcome and performance can you?  If that was 4 quarters explain the second quarter for me?
4 qtrs, the  other mob  didn't exactly score either in the 2nd qtr. You miss the other side. It was a very defensive qtr obviously. Dogs didn't score their only goal until very late. Wasn't the blow away that normally happens at any time.

Guess that answers that question. Anything else?