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Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #90 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Quote from: PaulP – on


My idea of a resignation is essentially when the company or club has no issue with you, they would be happy to keep you, and you leave of your own volition, without any mitigating circumstances.

I'm not sure that temporality tips the scales one way or the other. Wright and Davies made it clear they were not going to continue with Voss, and they allowed the "resignation" narrative to take center stage, as indeed they should. Allows him to exit the club with some dignity intact. I'm sure his first preference would be to receive a contract extension and finish the work he started. His 2nd preference would be what just unfolded. Our club has a pretty dismal record of treating coaches like garbage when they exit the club. At least with Voss there was a little dignity to the affair. Small mercies and all that.

A cynic might say that Voss decided to resign with the writing on the wall and ensuring that the club looked silly in the process.  Whilst Wright and Priestly looked a bit unflustered, I dont think Voss deciding to call it quits this week was part of the plan.  Perhaps we were going to let him coach out the year after all, and he was not having a bar of it.

I don't discount that.
I'm not sure the club wanted it done so early.
I always thought the later the better so there was no chance of an interim coach making a good fist of the job and putting pressure on them to give him the job on a full time basis.
Fraser says he's not ready.
A positive finish to the season may change his mind.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #91 –
Quote from: laj – on
Intent, outcome, pretty good. We were at least smarter the way we went about it. Allowed us to run out the 4th qtr after a hard match. That hasn't happened all year. Interesting!
You did watch the game against the Lions, you know a week ago!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #92 –
Just watched the replay. Dogs had probably their worst team for quite a while and they don't have a lot of depth due to injury and whatever so I think they're in for a world of pain over the next few weeks if they don't get some troops back. Still it wouldn't be the first time we've dropped a game like this so it was nice to win for a change
A good spread on contributors again
Florent was very good all night I think he only butchered the ball once?
Ollie Hollands had a great game I thought. Ran hard as he always does but I think this was the best I've seem him kick, live EVER
Cowan probably his best for the year. Was worried about him but may have been premature
Ison nice debut. Wish Moir could take a leaf out of his book. Then we'd have some serious fun
Matt Carroll continues to get better and better
Billy, a bit better this week. I just wish he'd go with his natural run. Looks like he's worried about stuffing up and just takes a bit long to move
Thought Walsh wasn't real good
Thought Cerra had a better game also
I'm worried about Weitering. Reckon I could get a kick on him.
Think George needs to get a move on as well

Could beat Port next week

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #93 –
It is amazing what happens when the pressure from the fear of failure is released. Last year we lost three of our best players during the trade period, the three who replaced them, Hayward, Florent and Ainsworth, were good in this game. Our young players, Smith, O.Hollands, Cowan, Wilson, Ison & Dean were all good too and with energy. My criticism of Voss is he didn't play the young guys enough. They got a couple of late goals, and a couple from soft umpiring decisions, so we should have won by more. I said last week that our players don't have heads or backs and clearly Ison doesn't have a head as well, Cerra and Hewitt had their best games for the season and our leaders led. Life is full of opportunities and problems, I see opportunities for the team for the rest of the season.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #94 –
Crippa was good in the last quarter, the first 3 quarters were bang on average with his confidence looking shot. He found a way though and showed the way. Carroll BOG for mine with Harry not far from it. More movements in-game which was something Voss was unable to do, or didn't want to do.
We have something to work with, provided we have a good coach and better recruitment to support it.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #95 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: laj – on
Intent, outcome, pretty good. We were at least smarter the way we went about it. Allowed us to run out the 4th qtr after a hard match. That hasn't happened all year. Interesting!
You did watch the game against the Lions, you know a week ago!
That was 2 qtrs, not 4. We were 8 goals behinds, didn't work hard so had plenty to finish on with. Miss our first half effort?

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #96 –
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #97 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
Obviously
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #98 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
A rather long bow to draw there.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #99 –
We'll never know.
No point dwelling on what might have been.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #100 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
Might have worked a bit harder in that first half rather than pressure rating of 140 to 150.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #101 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Obviously we would have beat the Lions had Voss not coached that game.
Might have worked a bit harder in that first half rather than pressure rating of 140 to 150.

In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.

That was 1/3rd of the total game time.
Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?

Can't blame Voss for that one.

Or doesn't it count this week??

If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse.
Dogs last 5 games have included....
2x  10 goal losses
1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us)
1x2 point win against Port.
and a loss to us.

But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #102 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: laj – on
Might have worked a bit harder in that first half rather than pressure rating of 140 to 150.

In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.

That was 1/3rd of the total game time.
Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?

Can't blame Voss for that one.

Or doesn't it count this week??

If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse.
Dogs last 5 games have included....
2x  10 goal losses
1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us)
1x2 point win against Port.
and a loss to us.

But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.
Give it away. I see through your spin.  Spin...spin...spin!!! You use that alot.

We played 4 qtrs for the first time in ages and kept up the pressure, eventually finishing on. Knowing when to play tempo footy as seen with 124 marks, rather than play on and boot it to a contest meant we didn't die on out butt and had plenty left. Better than winning well then collapsing on a weekly basis. Clutching at 3 goals in a row to say otherwise...hahaha. That happens every week to a number of sides. We were never more than 11pts behind. We do 5+ goals on a weekly basis. We took on a decent side and beat them, remembering we were 3rd last because of your favourite coach. You mightn't like the answer but bad luck. Try your spin on others.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #103 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


In 40 minutes, we scored 1 goal, opposition scored 3.3. Thankfully not kicking straight.

That was 1/3rd of the total game time.
Why were we so poor? What was our pressure rating then?

Can't blame Voss for that one.

Or doesn't it count this week??

If we played Sydney or Brisbane instead of an injury riddled out of form doggies, it would've been a lot worse.
Dogs last 5 games have included....
2x  10 goal losses
1x 12 point loss to freo (was 14 points for us)
1x2 point win against Port.
and a loss to us.

But it has nothing to do with their 'lack of' form, its all got to do with our interim coach.
Give it away. I see through your spin.  Spin...spin...spin!!! You use that alot.

We played 4 qtrs for the first time in ages and kept up the pressure, eventually finishing on. Knowing when to play tempo footy as seen with 124 marks, rather than play on and boot it to a contest meant we didn't die on out butt and had plenty left. Better than winning well then collapsing on a weekly basis. Clutching at 3 goals in a row to say otherwise...hahaha. That happens every week to a number of sides. We were never more than 11pts behind. We do 5+ goals on a weekly basis. We took on a decent side and beat them, remembering we were 3rd last because of your favourite coach. You mightn't like the answer but bad luck. Try your spin on others.

I like how you can't answer any question directed to you.

Your default answer is 'spin' 'clutching at straws', 1-8, 12-40.
You offer now analysis. No independent thought. Its all 'fake news' trump style misdirection.

Both myself and MBB have asked you repeatedly (and Shawny who is in the same boat) what we should expect this year now we've sacked the coach. How many wins we should get. etc. You say nothing.

If you wanna debate the merits of something, actually bring something to the table.
 

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #104 –
I don't think anyone can predict our number of wins from here.
A lot depends on how we approach the games.
Do we want to go all out to try and win as many as possible, which in some respects would be counterproductive.
or
Do we want to spend the rest of the year evaluating the list, trying players in different positions and getting games into youngsters.
It may be a combination of both.