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Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #120 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Fraser's thoughts on Vossy and the win; "We’ve exchanged text messages. He was proud of the group, his fingerprints were all over last week’s result - I was really pleased for the players and hopefully ‘Vossy’ found some joy in seeing a victory as well."

Vossy's departure on his own terms, insofar as timing, probably gives him more scope to enjoy our wins than the six coaches we've sacked this century.

Yep. Just listened to the same thing at Frase's media conference. This acknowledgement from Frase says volumes about how this particular ex coach is viewed by the club... very, very different -- as you point out David -- to other coaches who've departed this century. I think we can safely say that the club has 'turned the corner.'

I'd still love to see Vossy considered to replace Diesel on the Board.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #121 –
.....but vossy was the problem!

We solved the problem? Didn't we?

Shawny, jimbo??

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #122 –
We'll never know.
That's what happens when they're gone.

A lot will be said about respect and relationships.
The question that flows from that is "why was it considered best that Voss was not to be extended."

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #123 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
.....but vossy was the problem!

We solved the problem? Didn't we?

Shawny, jimbo??

You are like a dog with a bone mate.

I never said Voss was all the problem but in my opinion he as part of it as was the list manager. Both are gone - get better replacements and will improve.

Are you going to try and defend your position with every loss..... let it go - time to move on.

You have your opinion and i have mine.



Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #124 –
Every loss you blamed on Voss. No excuses now, we should win every game.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #125 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Every loss you blamed on Voss. No excuses now, we should win every game.


ok with me if you want to rate the coach on win loss - Fraser only needs one more win in the next 9 to be an upgarde on what voss did.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #126 –
A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.

And back to the thread... Personally, yes it was great we had a win, however... in that final qtr the Dishlickers were their own worst enemy. Two promising launches deep into their F50 went out on the full from normally reliable kicks, The Bont was on one leg at centre ball ups giving us an advantage which we took full advantage of, Pitto hardly had an opponent at that centre ball ups giving Crippa an armchair ride as he, also, wound back the clock. Bluntly, we could not have met the Dishlickers at a better time... they lost it as much as we won it. I suspect most sides above us would have put them to the sword with a big win. Sorry to be a wet blanket. However, it was important for the players to get that W reward for effort. And supporters.

We'll learn more at AO on Saturday night. Go on with it, or a reality check. Pass the popcorn please... with real melted butter. Ta.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #127 –
Great post Baggers.
Yep, time to move on regarding the coach
Nothing to be gained by dwelling on it.

And not a great deal to be drawn from the result.
The Dogs were crippled, and those not crippled were out injured.
But a win is a win, and we were probably a side that really needed that win as a circuit breaker.

The thing is that we now have a situation where the pressure is also off, and rather than concentrating on performance week by week we can look at it in terms of player development and opportunities. We shouldn't get too carried away with wins (it would be nice to get a few) but the focus is now more on the future with important roles to fill and judgements needing to be made on a number of players.
At times like this you often get players stepping up and showing some extra stings to their bows.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #128 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.

Perhaps.

The same style press release was issued in regards to Austin....yet within the week he was seeking legal action to sue the club for sacking him.

So the club has proven to tell porky pies, on the same day no less, so is it plausible that they told 2 'lies' on the same day? Absolutely.
Regardless, i think its more like...."You are done here. You choose how you want to go out." Vossy chose that way.

Yes, its all done and dusted. Thats not the story though.

The story is the guys who pulled the trigger......or accepted the resignation after pointing a gun to his head.
Did they do the right thing.
As above, PR spin is working wonderfully.....except the austin part.....but was it actually the right decision? Time will tell.....but most likely not reveal itself at all, look at the past 25 years of coaches.

I said the week before Vossy was sacked that i expected a few more wins in the coming weeks, this being the most likely. Next week being also likely.
So he's timing was off, he may have saved himself, but it appears the decision was already made, so there was no point.
 

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #129 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Baggers – on
A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.

Perhaps.

The same style press release was issued in regards to Austin....yet within the week he was seeking legal action to sue the club for sacking him.

So the club has proven to tell porky pies, on the same day no less, so is it plausible that they told 2 'lies' on the same day? Absolutely.
Regardless, i think its more like...."You are done here. You choose how you want to go out." Vossy chose that way.

Yes, its all done and dusted. Thats not the story though.

The story is the guys who pulled the trigger......or accepted the resignation after pointing a gun to his head.
Did they do the right thing.
As above, PR spin is working wonderfully.....except the austin part.....but was it actually the right decision? Time will tell.....but most likely not reveal itself at all, look at the past 25 years of coaches.

I said the week before Vossy was sacked that i expected a few more wins in the coming weeks, this being the most likely. Next week being also likely.
So he's timing was off, he may have saved himself, but it appears the decision was already made, so there was no point.
Agree with all of that, a lot of spin and bad timing, interesting that Voss might be a consultant for the new coach selection panel being assembled which is Wright, Davies and Priestley plus two outsiders and then Voss when required.

Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs

Reply #130 –
The story is that it's done and dusted.
Voss is gone.
He's not coming back.
It's like asking an umpire to reverse his decision.
There will be rumours and speculation and folks will choose to believe what ever fits their own feelings about the failure to extend Voss.
But at the end of the day it was handled as well as these things can be handled.

There will be no accounting.
There never is.
The club has no avenue for accountability at that top level.
The club will move on.
What matters now will be the choice of a new  coach.
That's where the judgements on the performance of folks like Priestley's, Wright  and Davies will occur.
But there will be no consequences internally if they get it wrong.
The board and admin are tied to the decisions as one.
We don't get to vote on their performance.