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Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #45 –
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #46 –
Crippa back to his best is the difference.  Jagga emerging helps, walsh is starting to find career best form too.

Pittonet is a competitor but he isnt a great of the game, no matter how you spin it. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #47 –
Quote from: bratblue – on
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
Not really, thought it was Harry's best ruck heavy type game by some margin.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #48 –
Quote from: LP – on
Quote from: bratblue – on
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
Not really, thought it was Harry's best ruck heavy type game by some margin.

Ruck contests went about 2/3rds pitto 1/3 harry.
Taps to advantage was 10 to 1 though.
Harry did some work on the ground and i highlighted as much in game. But pure ruckwork he is a long way behind.

Swap put pitto for reidy and we lose that game.

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #49 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I reckon i'd be happy playing the cats 22 games a year.

We probably have a better record against them then the other 16 teams over the past few years.
No idea why....but don't really care.
Indeed. Let them play us and the Giants more often: they can't beat either of us!
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #50 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Fraser just said we have to acknowledge vossy for the pressure and commitment side of the group and he has tried to add the connections after we win the ball and how to move the ball when we have it and how to defend when we dont.

Perfect summary - respect and acknowledge what voss has done and now the next stage to evolve the other areas that are just as critical and where we were lacking.

Also wasnt as quick to dismiss his hat being in the future coaching role and if we keep winning it will be interesting to see the outcome.

How good is Dean. Just love this kid. Has to get his nomination this week.
How Dean has not been nominated so far defies imagination. He is never going to get 30 possessions: that is not why he is there. Instead, you see him beating experienced forwards, week in, week out. Deserves his kudos as the best defender from last year's crop.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #51 –
Quote from: townsendcalling – on
Pittonet and McKay were enormous, the move of Big Harry into the ruck has worked a treat!!
We really got on top when H was in the middle. He didn't win a lot of taps, but he got 5 clearances himself and he helped our smaller players get the ball out.
H's kicking ... well, everyone needs to improve something.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #52 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Scott spending most of his press conference talking about the goal that wasn't.
"I don't want to comment.....but...."
"What i think doesn't matter.....but...."
"I'm not spending any time thinking about it....but....."

....but spends all his time talking about it.
I am not surprised. He is not a good loser and never has been.
I'm just glad he gets to taste it from us!
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #53 –
I really thought their better skills were going to make them snatch this one. But our relentless pressure was marvellous to behold!

Ground ball gets: we dominated.
Contested possessions: take out their marks, then we win by more than 20!
One-percenters: Even after our first quarter and after all their smothers, we still win it convincingly.
Tackles inside 50: we had 14, they had 9. Imagine what would happen if we could hit a target, as most of their scores came after our turnovers!
Clearances, centre clearances and stoppage clearances, we dominate, even after being well behind early.
Taps to advantage: in our favour clearly, even though we had less taps.

We couldn't buy a goal, missing a huge number of easy shots. They kick goals they have no right to kick, and we still win!
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #54 –
Quote from: bratblue – on
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
I thought Pitto's centre ball-up contests in the 2nd half were instrumental in our centre clearance work - I don't think I have seen Pitto get off the ground in those contests as effectively

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #55 –
Looking at the possessions:
Sam Walsh: 30 possessions, 7 tackles, 7 clearances: Walsh was awful early, but he picked himself up and played on Bailey Smith, not only negating him, but providing huge drive. Smith had more ball, but his kicks weren't effective, even in the first quarter, when he got most of them. When it came to doing the hard things, it was Sam Walsh who stood up.

Patrick Cripps: 30 possessions, 4 tackles, 8 clearances and the mark and goal that won the game: Crippa was also ordinary early. He couldn't get his hand on the ball. But he kept working and kept working until we dominated the centre square. Who stepped up when it was needed? Patrick Cripps!

Jagga Smith: 27 possessions, 6 clearances and 3 tackles. Like the two previous players, Jagga had a nightmare early. he turned the ball over with poor kicks and ordinary decision making, he dropped marks, he got spoilt. But, like the rest, he kept coming. His kicks suddenly hit targets. He got clearances. He provided dash.

Geelong didn't have any players like this. It was Smith or nothing for them, and he doesn't use the ball well. Our Smith showed him how to kick.

Ben Ainsworth: 25 possessions, 2 clearances and 4 tackles: Ben might not have been as obvious as some of his teammates, but he was no less effective. That was a big game.

Cerra and Hewett weren't as prolific, but both of them were important and played crucial roles. Our midfield had a good night after a very ordinary start.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #56 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Quote from: bratblue – on
They had something like 20 more hit outs than us but we had one more than them to advantage. says a lot about our rucks and more so our contested ball set ups. we're still elite there.
I thought Pitto's centre ball-up contests in the 2nd half were instrumental in our centre clearance work - I don't think I have seen Pitto get off the ground in those contests as effectively
Indeed, Pitto really lifted in the 2nd half. He just belted the ball early, and that rarely ended up to our advantage. He didn't get huge numbers after half time, but he blunted his opponents, he got possessions, and his taps ended up with our players.
Pitto ended with 3 clearances himself, which was more than Bailey Smith. Only 2 Geelong players did better. All of our mids did.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #57 –
Our defence struggled early with loose checking upfield, giving them easy, uncontested possessions. But when they lost midfield dominance, our defenders were excellent.

Jacob Weitering probably played his best game for the year. He got possessions, he thrashed his opponents, he took relieving marks and he didn't turn the ball over. 19 possessions and 11 marks.

Harry Dean: he needs to be nominated for the best 1st year player, as he dominated his opponents on the night. He couldn't help a couple of freak goals, but he got 15 possessions, 9 marks and 4 tackles.

Nick Haynes and Nic Newman continued their good form. Cowan had 4 kicked on him, but he had 20 possessions and wasn't poor. Florent made some poor disposals early, but he tightened up marvellously.
Live Long and Prosper!
 

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #58 –
We should always be on TV, we are the soap opera of the AFL, we are Days of our Blues. Ex-president in court, Coach resigns, the AFL change the Draft Rules, our Captain looks broken, we are down and out, and then we start partying like its 2023 all over again.
Despite making so many errors in throughout this game, and despite it was heart in your mouth  so many times as we rushed forward, the players kept fighting. You can follow a team that has a go.
Instead of always going long and high to the top of the goal square we came into our forward line from all angles and even though it wasn't pretty, Geelong's defence was separated, and in the end, even though they marked everything that went into our F50 until they didn't, we went long and quick to a one on one in our goal square and Cripps marked the ball, kicked the goal and we won the game.
I can't remember the last time Cripps jumped for a mark. If he starts doing that around the ground he could go to another level. Hayward,  Florent and Ainsworth have given us more depth, Cerra, Acres and Newman all made errors with ball in hand but they all stood up when it counted. McKay, Weitering, Walsh and Cripps are leading the team and now the others are following.
I look forward to seeing the likes of Moir, the Camporeales, Hok and Hof, Motlop, Chesser and O'Reilly  in the future.

Re: AFL Rd 12 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #59 –
How good is waking up on a Sat morning after a win? Having slept very well, I thought about some of the efforts last night:
- Fair is fair, Cripps, Walsh and Weitering were enormous last night. Led from the front and the kids followed.
- In particular, Walsh seemed to be everywhere. His running power has returned.
- Cowan - toughest job in football but gave it his all. We all know if Cameron gets a hold of a defence he can kick bags, really big bags. Moo gave away a few kegs and cm but fought tooth and nail to nullify Cameron as much as possible.
- Hard to tell on TV but after thinking Florent was quiet during the first qtr or two, he seemed to be tagging Dangerfield. Or maybe Danger was trying to negate Florent, either way Dangerfield can dine out on us and was held to a dozen possession and one goal.
- The tackling and pressure went through the roof after qtr time which warmed the cockles of my heart. THATS the standard.
- Jagga - what a player we have on our hands. I can now see the comparisons people made to Naicos in his draft year. Seems to go up a notch the tougher the opposition. This kid has maturity and desire to win beyond his years and I now think he will captain our club one day.
Room for improvement
- Lower those kicks FFS. They looked for Jagga at every opportunity to create and distribute but I thought some of the kicks to him were going to get him clobbered and injured. Those loopy kicks are suicide in modern footy, we seem to fix it for the most part after qtr time, Fraser need to address it.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership