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VFL Rd 13 2026 Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

The 2's play GWS at their home at 12:15 on Saturday.
It is unlikely that all of the Emergencies will play.
Flynn Young back gives the 2's a target they haven't really had of late.

I think Reidy is back. Ollie Hollands will play his first VFL game for a while, but we will miss Ben Camporeale, who has a minor hamstring. Lucas may well play: he is available.
We really need some leadership out there, as our last few weeks have been pretty ordinary. Saad and Cottrell not providing a huge amount.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #1
Our line-up:

B: M. Duffy (41), L. Young (33), D. Harvey (61)
HB: H. Charleson (28), J. Boyd (37), A. Saad (42)
C: L. Camporeale (21), O. Hollands (4), C. Vickery (59)
HF: L. Fogarty (8), D. Hogg (70), Z. Williams (6)
F: A. Moir (43), H. O'Keeffe (40), F. Young (45)
R: F. Riley (38), C. Chesser (31), C. Lord (36)
INT: S. Paea (66), T. Logan (68), L. Prout (74), C. Cotter (72), L. Farrar (75)
23rd Player: C. Cotter (72)
EMG: O. Badr (53), W. Cookson (77), J. Sammartino (58), A. Davey (57), T. Evans (67), J. Rule (65), T. Gresham (78), W. Reinhold (60)

IN: L. Camporeale, C. Cotter, O. Hollands, F. Young
OUT: M. Cottrell (AFL), B. Camporeale (hamstring), O. Warburton (wrist), J. Sammartino (omitted)
NEW: Charlie Cotter, 19, 178cm, Uni Blues/Claremont

[1] I thought Reidy might have been fit, but he's clearly not come up. As at least one of the senior Emergencies won't play, that could be interesting.

[2] Nice to Lucas C back. Hopefully he is all over his injury.

[3] 15 listed players. Hopefully we can come back to something like form, as the last couple of weeks have been pretty ordinary.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #2
Looking like a cricket score, against us, we look so small and light compared to GWS.

So far early in the 2nd Qtr we are seeing the worthless nature of winning taps without 2nd efforts, 23:1 in our favour, but clearances are roughly 50:50 and the scoreboard is all theirs! In this regard, Riley is miles off, and it highlights the difference between genuine worthwhile rucks stats and basic counting.

What Riley needs to do is follow up his tap work with clever positioning, to help prevent GWS pegging and forcing turnovers from his team-mates, and to also buy his fellow midfielders time and space to dispose effectively. But at the moment he's a worthless beanpole not unlike others we've had in the past, he's just a spectator after the tap, not positioning, no blocking, when he gets in the way half the time it's in the way of his own team. It's like we've never heard of the word shepherd, when we play like this we are roadkill!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3
Only just tuned in but one thing I didn't expect to see was the leading possession winner is Ashton Moir :o
The big question is "Have they been impactful?"

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Reply #4
Fans worry about the AFL, but 1/3 of our list plays VFL each week and in the absence of one or two who make an effort we are almost toothless.

I don't get it, we got a bit of a rise for a few weeks when Voss was kyboshed, but now it's back to business as usual.

Does it say something about the mindset of our list?

Today's AFL game will be a real tell, I hope I am wrong but I fear the worst. If after this we are smashed today in the AFL, it almost certainly confirms that the tail wags the dog, ............... still!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #5
Got one back, but at 59 points, it really is an ordinary showing.

Flynn Riley is dominating: he has twice the number of taps than the other 3 rucks combined, and O'Keefe is 2nd by the length of the straight.
But we're not getting the clearances and we're not doing anything when we get one.

Moir: 18 possessions, 8 marks, 2 clearances
Hogg: 21 possessions, 4 clearances

Even being flogged, we've had only 30 tackles.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Got one back, but at 59 points, it really is an ordinary showing.
To me it's not so much the scoreline, it's the manner of the defeat, to call it listless would be an understatement.

It reeks of players who have zero pride in performance, the well paid mercenary who quits in the face of the opponent they aren't certain to defeat.

All I want each week is a group that has a crack, I can accept not winning but I can't accept this, especially from some players that I know have the capability to be much better.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #7
2 quick goals, but this one is all over.
Still Paea and Cookson had to get them. Much better that the opposite.

Make that 3: Liam Farrar does the deed.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #8
Comeback didn't last long. 2 to GWS.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: VFL Rd 13 2026 Carlton vs GWS in Sydney

Reply #9
Got one back, but at 59 points, it really is an ordinary showing.
To me it's not so much the scoreline, it's the manner of the defeat, to call it listless would be an understatement.

It reeks of players who have zero pride in performance, the well paid mercenary who quits in the face of the opponent they aren't certain to defeat.

All I want each week is a group that has a crack, I can accept not winning but I can't accept this, especially from some players that I know have the capability to be much better.
Agree, a few of the older players know its over career wise and couldnt be bothered. GWS dont have a lot of big names in their team either which makes it more disappointing.
Riley has had a million hitouts to nothing but has had zero impact on the game.
Hollands and Williams probably our best imho.

 

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Reply #10
Riley's getting plenty of the taps but seriously...he's not rucking to Cripps, Walsh, Smith and Hewett .
He's not even rucking to all our second string extractors with Ben C missing.

Will this be an indicator to the senior game.
We'll know in  a couple of hours, but making judgements on the AFL team who haven't even played and the VFL team missing quite a few is probably a bit harsh.

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Reply #11
I wouldn't be surprised if a few of our older guys know they are for the chop.
Did Boyd get injured early on?

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Reply #12
Boyd was injured. Arm? Shoulder?
Moir hasn't had a possession this quarter.

GWS putting the foot down now. Very ugly.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #13
Charlie Cotter gets his first goal. Congratulations, lad.
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Reply #14
Carlton: 12 - 14 - 86
GWS: 24 - 11 - 155

We managed 6 goals in the last (as did GWS).
Ollie Hollands: 25 possessions, 6 tackles, 3 clearances
Darcy Hogg: 25 possessions, 2 tackles, 5 clearances
Harry Charleson: 22 possessions, 3 tackles, 1 clearance - his 2nd half was better statistically.
Zac Williams: 21 possessions, 3 tackles, 2 clearances
Ashton Moir: 20 possessions, 0 tackles, 3 clearances
Cooper Lord: 20 Possessions, 3 tackles, 4 clearances, 1 goal 1.
Flynn Riley: 18 possessions, 53 taps, 11 clearances, 2 marks

Not a lot else.
Live Long and Prosper!