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VFL Rd 14 2026 Carlton vs Werribee

Saturday at 10:00, at home (for a change). Werribee are 3rd at the moment, while we've dropped off the cliff to 13th.
Our form has been putrid in recent weeks, so I hope we can see some improvement, especially from our experienced players. Our 2's are very young and need our experienced players to stand up.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #1 –
No list available yet. :( At least 1 Emergency won't play. Probably Hollands.
Can we get the ball out of the middle? Can we kick a goal?
Live Long and Prosper!

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Our line-up:

B:   41 Matt Duffy   33 Lewis Young   61 Dane Harvey
HB:   28 Harry Charleson   37 Jordan Boyd   42 Adam Saad
C:   21 Lucas Camporeale   4 Oliver Hollands   50 Darcy Tucker
HF:   8 Lachie Fogarty   70 Darcy Hogg   6 Zac Williams
F:   43 Ashton Moir   40 Hudson O'Keeffe   45 Flynn Young
R:   56 Flynn Riley   31 Campbell Chesser   36 Cooper Lord
Int:   66 Sam Paea   68 Taj Logan   74 Logan Prout   78 Tyson Gresham   75 Liam Farrar   53 Ollie Badr   60 Will Reinhold   58 Jack Sammartino   57 Alwyn Davey   67 Tom Evans   65 Jed Rule   59 Cooper Vickery
Em:   72 Charlie Cotter

[1] 15 named AFL listed players. Not all will play. At least one of the senior Emergencies will probably not play.
[2] We are a very different side to the one that was so impressive earlier this season. Some of our players have fallen off the cliff: their form has dropped to the point where they aren't making a meaningful contribution. And the ones that stand out ore senior listed.
(a) Matt Duffy: Matt's strength was his running ability. He could not just run all day, but he had real wheels. We're not seeing any of that at the moment. He is doing a half-decent job as a stopper, as he doesn't get a lot of scores against (most of the time, anyway), but he is getting 4 to 6 possessions and providing no drive at all. Monahan was doing much better before he was injured.
Should we be trying him somewhere else? Playing as a key defender (because of his height) is one thing, but with his present ultra-defensive mindset he isn't providing what we need. And it probably isn't helping his confidence either.
(b) Dane Harvey: Dane may be VFL listed, but he started the season really well in defence: his opponents took him to the ball, which he then often won. His disposals and marks have dropped off so much that he is rivalling Matt Duffy for the least number of possessions on the park.
Over the last couple of years he has shown a bit, even if he is an 'almost' player. But lately he has provided little. His opponents are generally not getting huge numbers, but with Duffy it is like having 2 fewer players on the park.
(c) Adam Saad: Saad looks to have checked out. The desire, the extra effort, even the run pasts are missing. He has lost a yard of pace, which isn't helping him, but we no longer see the desperation that he had at his best.
Should we be playing him in a less defensive role? His kicking is still reasonable, given time (which doesn't happen often these days). Without the pressure maybe he can provide some drive.
(d) Ashton Moir: Moir is probably the biggest disappointment in my mind, because we've seen cameos of what he can do. His goal-sense is second to none. He thinks outside the box. He can take a big mark and kicks straight. But he is not providing much as a forward or as a defender. He got probably his biggest haul possession-wise last week, but was totally ineffective.
One of the problems in his game is that he's been the key figure in forward line most weeks, and I don't think he is #1 material. He is better as a second or third banana. But, we have few options when it comes to key position types.
I want to see him back as a forward. I want to see him leading hard and providing a real option. I want our mids to look for him. I want to see second efforts, 1 percenters and tackling. Spoiling too, if necessary. I really want to feel that he is the one we believe in, because we kick it to him in a sensible way. I don't think I'm asking too much: he has the talent, but it has to start meaning something to him.
(e) Hudson O'Keefe: HOK has been one of this season's biggest disappointments. He hasn't been delivering in the ruck, he is now behind Reidy (who we miss at this level) and Riley. He isn't a key forward, but we've been forced to play him there as we have nothing else. It isn't helping his game.
I want to see him do more ruck work, and I want to see the 2nd, 3rd and 4th efforts he used to have. I can't remember any big tackles, for example, which used to be a staple of his game. I want to see centre clearances, I want to see him being a marking option around the ground and I want to see him gut run to offer a target. Spoiling opposition rucks and good tackles wouldn't go astray either.
(f) Campbell Chesser: Chesser has been our least effective recruit from this cohort and a huge disappointment. We are trying him in different roles because he wasn't getting a kick on the wing. I think he has been more involved recently, but he isn't an inside player: he doesn't get centre clearances, which is one of the reasons we've been getting flogged recently. What are we missing that he was supposed to provide? He has shown little in the air. His kicking hasn't been that great. His decision making has been questionable at times. He has pace, but we haven't seen it yet: not once can I remember him running a guy down like Billy Wilson did in the seniors last week.
I'm not sure what we can do with him. Do we try to make him a run-with player? God knows we need one (or more). But he is not going to make an impact if he isn't doing the negative things or the positive things.
(g) Cooper Lord: Granted that Lord has had a few injuries this year, but he has produced very little. he is a guy who can play as an inside mid, but he isn't getting the clearances or the tackles that were typical of him last year. He should be tearing it up at this level: he has shown he can do that in the seniors. Is it a fitness thing? Confidence? I don't know, but we need to get him back to the physicality and mindset that he displayed last year. Especially, as he is probably the only inside mid we have with Ben Camp out at the moment.
(h) Flynn Riley: For someone who has made it onto the senior list from where he was, you might wonder why Riley is on this list. The answer is complex. He is rucking better now than ever before, no doubt about that. he had 53 taps last week and a lot of clearances. But, were they effective? Not really. Some of the problem is a lack of inside mids to get the ball out of the middle, but some of it is that he is not giving our mids the service that he probably should. He isn't doing much around the ground at the moment either, which he did do more of last year. Are we kicking it to him? I think we should. He is a big boy and he is getting stronger. He is mobile enough to give a lot of rucks issues. But, we aren't see it. He seems happy to get the taps.
I was critical of Reidy earlier this year for grabbing the ball and getting the clearance himself rather than delivering it to a mid. Riley is now doing something of the same thing.
I hope that, as he develops (Riley is still young as a ruck) that he can play more like Matthew Kreuzer and less like Marc Pittonet. I want to see marks, tackles, spoils and maybe even a goal or three. I don't think it is an impossibility. But at the moment, Riley seems happy just getting taps.
I could go about Boyd's stagnation, Lucas Campo's not coming on and more, but I'll leave it here. You don't want a dissertation.
[3] I am liking Liam Farrar. he is leading more than most of our forwards, and getting some shots at goal. All he needs to do is start putting them through the middle.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #3 –
Half way through the first quarter Werribee 2 goals in front
Lord and Hollands getting plenty of the ball.

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Reply #4 –
Werribee well on top...3.3 to 0.3 close to quarter time
That's the quarter time score.
Riley not having it all his own way in the ruck this week.
Kuol Mun is giving him a contest.

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Reply #5 –
We've gone a bit handball happy this quarter and it is having an effect.
F Young puts his body on the line to win a free and the advantage results in a goal to Paea
then follows up a minute later with one of his own.

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Reply #6 –
We're well on top in this second quarter.
But Werribee gets one against the flow.
They're back out to a two goal lead.

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Reply #7 –
We applied real pressure for the first 15 minutes of that quarter but that's dropped off and Werribee are out to a 3 goal lead.

5.3 to 2.4 at the moment.

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Reply #8 –
Is Walker playing?
Did we ever get an update on his shoulder??

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Reply #10 –
So Tigers by 15 at half time...

Riley must have been reading your stuff Kruds.
The hitouts are fairly even but Riley is knocking a few that he wins out into space rather than trying to direct them.
He's also picking up quite a few possesions around the ground.

O'Keefe was a statue up until about the last 10 minutes when he had a couple of shots for goal.

Hollands 18 and Lord 17 have plenty of the ball.
Lucas Camporeale's going OK too.

Of the non listed players Darcy Tucker is the leading possession winner on the ground with 19.

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Reply #11 –
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So Tigers by 15 at half time...

Riley must have been reading your stuff Kruds.
The hitouts are fairly even but Riley is knocking a few that he wins out into space rather than trying to direct them.
He's also picking up quite a few possesions around the ground.

Its not exactly rocket science, but good to see some progress.
 

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Reply #12 –
He is being beaten by AJ in the ruck contests but far more effective around the ground.

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Reply #13 –
Our turn to get one against the flow.
Lord gets hit late and gets marched to the goal square.

43 to 25 at the moment.

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Reply #14 –
Goal to Moir and it's back to 12 points.