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Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #60 –
Quote from: shawny – on
Quote from: kruddler – on


Carlton
Vs top 6 - 0-6
Vs bottom 5 - 5-0
Vs middle 7 - 3-3

Explain how?
Doesn't matter who the coach is, results follow ladder perfectly.

MMB said the ladder doesnt lie.

Under Voss we were 17th.

under fraser we have won 7 of 8 and now sit in 12.

All the rest is spin as usual.

OK, well in that case, after R1 we were 1-1 and sat 11th. So Voss is the better coach then? You said it.


If you are going to argue nonsense, nonsense will be thrown back at you.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #61 –
Well Shawny it's your grand final this week buddy. All we have to do is beat Collingwood.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #62 –
I can't remember the last time I went to a game and saw standing water on the G.  Apparently 10ml in an hour!

Hawthorn's positioning, toughness and adaptability was streets ahead of ours.  Losing Hewitt didn't help, but Acres would have been handy.  Not sure about our tactic of bombing it into the forward line.  Didn't seem to work very well.

The 50m penalty - enough has been said, but it energised Hawks and deflated us.  Result wouldn't have been different, but it becomes a different game.

Good result for our son's mate who came along, but that was about it.  Even the Hot Jam Donut after the game had cold jam in it - so disappointing.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #65 –
And another thread bites the dust. ::)  ::)

It's a fruitless argument that is dominating many threads.
The same things are being written time after time.
Yet I doubt one mind has been changed.

And in twelve months from now the whole thing will just be another sad chapter in our 21st century history.
We'll have no doubt moved on next year to a new crisis or new beginnings.
People have had their say, it's on the record.
It'll still be here as long as the site exists in it's present form.
But I doubt anyone will look back more than a few pages on any thread they engage with.

At the very least, can posters please try and confine the Voss/Fraser discussion to the relevant coach thread.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #66 –
Collingwood by 26 points. Just like Hawthorn, they own us.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #67 –
Quote from: Lods – on
And another thread bites the dust. ::)  ::)

It's a fruitless argument that is dominating many threads.
The same things are being written time after time.
Yet I doubt one mind has been changed.

And in twelve months from now the whole thing will just be another sad chapter in our 21st century history.
We'll have no doubt moved on next year to a new crisis or new beginnings.
People have had their say, it's on the record.
It'll still be here as long as the site exists in it's present form.
But I doubt anyone will look back more than a few pages on any thread they engage with.

At the very least, can posters please try and confine the Voss/Fraser discussion to the relevant coach thread.

Lods, i feel your frustration.
However, yours seems directed at one side of the debate.
Don't blame the retaliators. blame the instigators.
They've been needling us for months, and continue to do so. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you expect us to continue to cop it? Not going to happen.
 

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #68 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Quote from: Lods – on
And another thread bites the dust. ::)  ::)

It's a fruitless argument that is dominating many threads.
The same things are being written time after time.
Yet I doubt one mind has been changed.

And in twelve months from now the whole thing will just be another sad chapter in our 21st century history.
We'll have no doubt moved on next year to a new crisis or new beginnings.
People have had their say, it's on the record.
It'll still be here as long as the site exists in it's present form.
But I doubt anyone will look back more than a few pages on any thread they engage with.

At the very least, can posters please try and confine the Voss/Fraser discussion to the relevant coach thread.

Lods, i feel your frustration.
However, yours seems directed at one side of the debate.
Don't blame the retaliators. blame the instigators.
They've been needling us for months, and continue to do so. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you expect us to continue to cop it? Not going to happen.

You probably feel that Kruddler because you're on one side of the debate
The criticism applies to both sides.

The point of 1-8 to 7-1 or whatever the score may be has also been well and truly documented.
But so is the alternative view...it's not like the other side has been quiet.
The point is these things don't need to be repeated over and over in multiple threads.
What exactly are folks  getting out of repeating the same thing.

Because if you think you're going to change the minds of those opposite you're sadly mistaken and  essentially wasting your time.
Both sides just need to let it go.
Things changed a bit with the loss on the weekend and provided an opportunity for the other side to fire a salvo.

At the moment we have three distinct groups.
Ones questioning the changes, if any.
One supporting the moves.
And a group who just want to move on and look ahead.

I'm not asking anyone to stop posting their arguments.
I'm just pointing out they're pretty futile because no minds have or will change.
And if possible can we keep them out of other threads and confine it to the umbrella thread relating to coaches.

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #69 –
I have openly said my mind would change if we beat Hawthorn or Collingwood.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 18 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Hawthorn

Reply #70 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I have openly said my mind would change if we beat Hawthorn or Collingwood.


We have a few more tests in the coming weeks. We failed the first one against Haw, there is still Coll, Bris, Fred, WB and StK all above us. There is also GC who technically are better than us but struggling this year.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership