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Is Lewis Young showing more than ever before?

The last couple of games from Lewis Young have revealed a less tentative, less panicked player than previously.

Is this a result of how Fraser is using him or has he simply cast off his ultra-defensive mindset?

Was his previous role as a panic-prone defender an imposition of the coaching at the time?

Is it a coincidence that his recent form has come when Weitering has been absent? Was he hamstrung by being required to play second fiddle to Weitering and having to try to cover whichever forward Weitering chose to switch from?

Or are the recent games a flash in the pan that will be revealed as such if he reverts to previous habits?

Re: Is Lewis Young showing more than ever before?

Reply #1 –
Been saying it for a while, he is no where near as bad as people make out. In fact, he's been pretty darn good. Plays his role, is team first, excellent solider.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
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Reply #2 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Been saying it for a while, he is no where near as bad as people make out. In fact, he's been pretty darn good. Plays his role, is team first, excellent solider.
He certainly has put his best foot forward and will probably be retained. His footy smarts yesterday were something we haven't always seen. Hopefully, he can continue that.
Live Long and Prosper!

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Reply #3 –
One of the best quarters of football I've seen from a Carlton player in the last 4 or 5 years was Lewis Young playing all over the ground in a VFL game...he tore it apart.
No indecision, no tentativeness.
I felt sure he was headed back to the seniors....
Then around quarter time he got injured.
Yes, it was VFL but he was a class above.

Re: Is Lewis Young showing more than ever before?

Reply #4 –
For mine, hes a better player sans weitering.

I reckon weitering asks him to do stuff that he doesnt necessarily agree with which is why he plays a more instinctive game without weiters.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #5 –
At the moment Young is rucking and floating forward, and it's Pitto doing the D50 end, it helped let Harry and Kemp off the hook. Young doesn't have to be as accountable in F50, he can move to space and make himself an option and teams aren't standing a close defender on him, but that won't persist. On top of this, right at the moment at least, he has the perfect coach to get the most out of him by using him in his best role.

In D50 Young gets caught out in no man's land ball watching, he's not needed there at the moment because we have Derksen and Dean doing a job. In this regard he is miles off Weitering, Dean or Derksen, they do no hesitate they just back themselves in to influence the contest.

As I watched last night I was thinking the Lions were making the same mistake with Hipwood that we made with Young, just because someone has the size and shape doesn't mean they will make it as a defender.

As much as I like the two rucks, I suspect when Weitering is back Young might be the out, with Derksen filling the F50 role, Derksen is now probably our 3rd best contested mark and getting better just behind Weitering and Harry. I think Derksen could easily fill the role left vacant by Charlie, and float to wherever he is needed. In my opinion he's a great get, who recruited him?
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Reply #6 –
Quote from: crashlander – on
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Been saying it for a while, he is no where near as bad as people make out. In fact, he's been pretty darn good. Plays his role, is team first, excellent solider.
He certainly has put his best foot forward and will probably be retained. His footy smarts yesterday were something we haven't always seen. Hopefully, he can continue that.
Did you notice the quick gives to runners going by instead of vital seconds of procrastination and poor decision making? He has been reliable and playing his role.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

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Reply #7 –
Forward, back, ruck with or without weitering.... its all irrelevant.

Young is a confidence player. When his confidence is high, he can do what you need him too.
When his confidence is shot, he's a witches hat.

Right now is high. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 

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Reply #8 –
In the game against the Suns, Lewis Young took a mark at CHB, faked a handpass to a teammate behind him, then played on past wrongfooted opponents.  It was not what I would have expected from Young but it now seems to be the way he's playing.  His round the corner goal and deft tap on for Frankie's goal are what you'd expect from a confident player enjoying the game and not feeling pressure to perform.

His ruckwork is barely competitive, but he gives it a crack, and he demands a KPD when he goes forward, making life easier for our other talls.  His work in defence is still his bread and butter.  Although he does tend to be on the end of some defensive breakdowns, we're losing nothing when it's his turn to man an opposition KPF or resting ruck.

Who knows why, I just hope that he can keep it up!
"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

Re: Is Lewis Young showing more than ever before?

Reply #9 –
Quote from: LP – on
At the moment Young is rucking and floating forward, and it's Pitto doing the D50 end, it helped let Harry and Kemp off the hook. Young doesn't have to be as accountable in F50, he can move to space and make himself an option and teams aren't standing a close defender on him, but that won't persist. On top of this, right at the moment at least, he has the perfect coach to get the most out of him by using him in his best role.

In D50 Young gets caught out in no man's land ball watching, he's not needed there at the moment because we have Derksen and Dean doing a job. In this regard he is miles off Weitering, Dean or Derksen, they do no hesitate they just back themselves in to influence the contest.

As I watched last night I was thinking the Lions were making the same mistake with Hipwood that we made with Young, just because someone has the size and shape doesn't mean they will make it as a defender.

As much as I like the two rucks, I suspect when Weitering is back Young might be the out, with Derksen filling the F50 role, Derksen is now probably our 3rd best contested mark and getting better just behind Weitering and Harry. I think Derksen could easily fill the role left vacant by Charlie, and float to wherever he is needed. In my opinion he's a great get, who recruited him?


agree. much easy as a floating PT forward/ruck then being undersized as a key defender.

he is doing well in the new role but equally makes you appreciate the holding down of key posts the 2 kids in dean and dersken are doing ad that is not easy and they have held up extremely well considering neither have played 20 games!