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Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #60
If we actually recruited a semi decent ruck/forward we wouldn't have needed to play Young.
It's why I liked Casboult. Jack of all trades, master if none. but was very handy Jack in all of those trades.

Probably going to be left to Harry again next year. We'll likely get Amartey, not my first choice but a decent enough player to support Harry. Makes it a bit easier to play Harry in that role and not have Kemp and Gov left there when he rucks.

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #61
If we actually recruited a semi decent ruck/forward we wouldn't have needed to play Young.
It's why I liked Casboult. Jack of all trades, master if none. but was very handy Jack in all of those trades.

Probably going to be left to Harry again next year. We'll likely get Amartey, not my first choice but a decent enough player to support Harry. Makes it a bit easier to play Harry in that role and not have Kemp and Gov left there when he rucks.

Its why i was so 'positive' on Jack Silvagni.

Having him as a 2nd ruck was great for team balance and why we never needed 2 rucks.
Forward/back/ruck.....Young is a poor version of Silvagni and worse in all 3 areas......but still the best we have.

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #62


Very true,  which is why several of these duds get games every week.   If there's even a remote chance that Blakey wants to leave, then we should make him our trade priority this year.

As good of a player that he is, I don't think we could sell it courtesy of our Carlton Respects campaign.

It would hurt the club and everything its trying to do.
Unless we could somehow manage to get him to be a poster boy of righting wrongs etc etc
Propaganda machine would need to be in orverdrive for that to happen.
I think there's talk that Blakey was hard done by. If that's the case, go for him, but we'll have to wait to see what comes out to see if that's correct. Blakey isn't at all happy with the club and wants out.

Heard Chris Davies interviewed on SEN. Says the club wanted a key forward, and running mid, and another running defender come the trade/draft. Blakey, Walker and Amartey would be a decent set of gains.

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #63


As good of a player that he is, I don't think we could sell it courtesy of our Carlton Respects campaign.

It would hurt the club and everything its trying to do.
Unless we could somehow manage to get him to be a poster boy of righting wrongs etc etc
Propaganda machine would need to be in orverdrive for that to happen.
I think there's talk that Blakey was hard done by. If that's the case, go for him, but we'll have to wait to see what comes out to see if that's correct. Blakey isn't at all happy with the club and wants out.

Heard Chris Davies interviewed on SEN. Says the club wanted a key forward, and running mid, and another running defender come the trade/draft. Blakey, Walker and Amartey would be a decent set of gains.
The problem with the trying to bring these guys is that a brief of evidence could take longer than the trader period date (ie it wont be ready until after the trade period). Who in their right mind would take a risk on a Heeney or a Blakey or a Warner during the trade period with the potential of charges laid hanging over their head. They may have no other option but to sit tight at the Swans (assuming they are wanted and their contracts arent torn up).
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership
2026-Slow start, we can kick after all, why not?

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #64
I think there's talk that Blakey was hard done by. If that's the case, go for him, but we'll have to wait to see what comes out to see if that's correct. Blakey isn't at all happy with the club and wants out.

Heard Chris Davies interviewed on SEN. Says the club wanted a key forward, and running mid, and another running defender come the trade/draft. Blakey, Walker and Amartey would be a decent set of gains.
The problem with the trying to bring these guys is that a brief of evidence could take longer than the trader period date (ie it wont be ready until after the trade period). Who in their right mind would take a risk on a Heeney or a Blakey or a Warner during the trade period with the potential of charges laid hanging over their head. They may have no other option but to sit tight at the Swans (assuming they are wanted and their contracts arent torn up).
Yes, and that is the issue for those players,

They might end up Delisted Free Agents in some cases if they tear up their contracts. Even them investigation may still be ongoing. It'd be hard to trade them and hard to keep them.

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #65
Disappointing way to finish the season IMO. It felt like earlier in the year, where we built up leads only to fritter them away.

I'm not so confident after last night that we have in fact turned a corner. Very good last 10/12/14 weeks of the season then making a bit of a dent in finals seems to be the best we can manage at the moment.
Between the weather and Geelongs changes we stopped our short game and went longer to Geelongs advantage.
I’m also share a bit of trepidation about next year, I saw a graphic a few weeks ago listing the most successful interim coaches and our old friend D. Teague was there…
I know Fraser has backed the youth this year and we remember that Teague sidelined the youth when he took over but next year we start at zero wins again…
Let’s go BIG !

 

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Reply #66
The other part of this is “who do we give up?”

Moir, Ison, HOF should all be on the table… even a Cowan (Tassie have pics remember). Motlop too can gtfo

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Reply #67
At least some of the youth will have 2nd year Blues, youth nearly always have some form of dip after their first full season.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #68
..and dare I say, Cripps.

The game is moving away from him, he’s ageing and who can really tell me he’s part of our next flag.

Watch me get shot down for this

Cripps for Jobe Shanahan, their 1st rounder, and that HBF we’ve been chasing…

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #69
Between the weather and Geelongs changes we stopped our short game and went longer to Geelongs advantage.
I’m also share a bit of trepidation about next year, I saw a graphic a few weeks ago listing the most successful interim coaches and our old friend D. Teague was there…
I know Fraser has backed the youth this year and we remember that Teague sidelined the youth when he took over but next year we start at zero again…

Yep, all clubs start at zero and have to go through it all over again.

I wouldn't worry about comparing records across coaching types (rookie, premiership, interim etc.) Neither Josh Fraser, nor Chris Scott, nor any one individual will get us back to the top. The change to a winning culture needs to happen across the entire organization.

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #70
..and dare I say, Cripps.

The game is moving away from him, he’s ageing and who can really tell me he’s part of our next flag.

Watch me get shot down for this

I doubt you'll get shot down, but certainly some push back. He's played fantastic footy in the last few months. The game has been passing him by for about 6 years straight.

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Reply #71
Cripps and Kemp for Amiss and Reid?

That helps Freos win now and helps our future?

Re: AFL EF#1 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #72
Between the weather and Geelongs changes we stopped our short game and went longer to Geelongs advantage.
I’m also share a bit of trepidation about next year, I saw a graphic a few weeks ago listing the most successful interim coaches and our old friend D. Teague was there…
I know Fraser has backed the youth this year and we remember that Teague sidelined the youth when he took over but next year we start at zero again…

Yep, all clubs start at zero and have to go through it all over again.

I wouldn't worry about comparing records across coaching types (rookie, premiership, interim etc.) Neither Josh Fraser, nor Chris Scott, nor any one individual will get us back to the top. The change to a winning culture needs to happen across the entire organization.

I guess Fraser has ignited a winning culture, even if it is to our 2026 draft detriment.
Carlton and tanking are now officially divorced.
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #73
I guess Fraser has ignited a winning culture, even if it is to our 2026 draft detriment.
Carlton and tanking are now officially divorced.

We can only hope it's forever.