Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: madbluboy – on March 05, 2014, 11:57:20 am

Some Junior Aussie rules football leagues no longer keep score so they don't hurt the children's feelings.

All juniors codes do the same thing, actually in Australia it started in soccer back in the 90s when they did a great job of selling soccer to young mums as a safe alternative to that nasty wasty AFL or Rugby!

Drawing the drugs in sport debate into the soccer diving argument as some sort of justification, really?

You think staging is worse than taking performance enhancing drugs in a contact sport?

LP, you're suggesting the sport is tainted by the diving, i'm suggesting the AFL is even further tainted by the use of PEDs. Not hard to figure out and the relevance is well and truly there.

Soccer doesn't have sides tanking to finish last.

Quote from: madbluboy – on March 05, 2014, 03:55:21 pm

Soccer doesn't have sides tanking to finish last.

Hmm are you sure about that, sides have never lost a game to get into the right side of a world cup draw?

In the sporting world today we saw the very antithesis of Vertonghen.

Ryan Harris.

Can't believe anyone could defend diving in soccer. It's like Selwood ducking his head (disgraceful) and the EFC drug scandal (unforgivable). We acknowledge the flaws in our game and attempt to overcome them. Diving in soccer makes the game unwatchable to fringe viewers who are yet to commit to the game.

Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on March 06, 2014, 12:06:36 am

Can't believe anyone could defend diving in soccer. It's like Selwood ducking his head (disgraceful) and the EFC drug scandal (unforgivable). We acknowledge the flaws in our game and attempt to overcome them. Diving in soccer makes the game unwatchable to fringe viewers who are yet to commit to the game.

Selwood ducks his head far more regularly than diving occurs in soccer.

We are not defending diving in soccer.  Its akin to all the things that fall into the category of "playing for a free kick" in either code.

Its part of both codes, and in fact all codes.  You draw the contact and then ensure that contact is noticed.  The end.

Some of it is borderline ridiculous which is a once in a blue moon proposition and that can occur in either code, and I can think of a couple of incidents off the top of my head.  One is Jack Darling going down from a Marcus Davies push to draw a double goal, another is a double goal against Essendon a few years ago, in which Davey got in someone's face, after a goal, was given a little shove, and he went down like someone just shot him, resulting in a goal.  That is ticky touchwood stuff, but the rules are clear.

One thing you will rarely see in soccer is a stuff up of such proportions in massive games like an elimination final.  (in context, this was the difference between winning and losing given the final margin was 3 points and this is the Darling incident I just mentioned).

In any case, you cant condemn a code based on something that doesnt make up a major part of the game.  That would be like turning away from footy based on the contact below the knees rule.

In any case, you cant condemn a code based on something that doesnt make up a major part of the game.  That would be like turning away from footy based on the contact below the knees rule.

Hasn't the AFL brought in rules following those incidents that players found diving without contact can be brought before the tribunal under the bringing the game in to disrepute rule, will soccer do the same?