Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 08, 2014, 06:01:25 pm

technically, we were 0 - 3 last year this time

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 08, 2014, 06:01:25 pm

technically, we were 0 - 3 last year this time

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 07:23:01 pm

Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 08, 2014, 06:01:25 pm

technically, we were 0 - 3 last year this time

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

Maybe we can produce a 4 quarter effort sometime to shut everyone up

Quote from: ItsOurTime – on April 08, 2014, 07:31:19 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 07:23:01 pm

Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 08, 2014, 06:01:25 pm

technically, we were 0 - 3 last year this time

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

Maybe we can produce a 4 quarter effort sometime to shut everyone up

4 quarter efforts are overrated. How many games does a team win every quarter?

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 05:11:13 pm

Posters here don't want to deal with facts.

The fact is we haven't improved, if we had we would be beating teams that finished above us last year!

Quote from: LP – on April 08, 2014, 05:12:22 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 05:11:13 pm

Posters here don't want to deal with facts.

The fact is we haven't improved, if we had we would be beating teams that finished above us last year!

In that respect nothing much has changed, in what is classed by some as our more successful period under Ratten we rarely beat teams above us on the ladder, we haven't beaten Hawthorn since Moses was in nappies.
You can't butcher the National Draft like we've done for more than a decade and hope for success, it's just not possible.

Quote from: blue4life – on April 08, 2014, 08:04:20 pm

Quote from: LP – on April 08, 2014, 05:12:22 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 05:11:13 pm

Posters here don't want to deal with facts.

The fact is we haven't improved, if we had we would be beating teams that finished above us last year!

In that respect nothing much has changed, in what is classed by some as our more successful period under Ratten we rarely beat teams above us on the ladder, we haven't beaten Hawthorn since Moses was in nappies.
You can't butcher the National Draft like we've done for more than a decade and hope for success, it's just not possible.

We were beating top 4 teams in 2009 & 2010. Not sure how we lost to Hawthorn in a couple of games.

Murphy's post-match comments on Sunday were predictable in their banality, saying the team "let itself down", calling the loss "embarrassing" and promising we will see "a very good response this Saturday".

It was also revealed the leadership group sat the rest of the players down and revealed some home truths in the aftermath of the Essendon loss.

But where was this leadership on the field over the last fortnight, when points and pride were actually at stake?

Murphy is averaging 24 disposals so far this season, and while that is by no means a disaster he is struggling to have a tangible impact on matches.

Gibbs was anonymous in the tight loss to the Tigers and as speculation continues over his future at the club, questions have been asked of his commitment to the cause.

McLean was dropped for the round three match with the Bombers, amid controversy over his decision to remain seated on the bench at three-quarter time after being subbed against Richmond (although he pleaded ignorance rather than indifference) - his form had been poor regardless of the bench incident.

Walker was irresponsibly suspended for the Tigers game after throwing Port's Angus Monfries into a fence in round one, and he was lucky not to get more weeks after collecting Justin Westhoff in the head in the same match.

While the other four - Henderson, Jamison, Carrazzo and Simpson - may set high standards on the training track, none were able to show a cool head against Richmond or inspire any sort of fight against Essendon.

How can the rest of the team be expected to significantly up their game if the men they look up to refuse to?

There is enough talent in this Carlton list for the Blues to be performing far better than they currently are - indeed only a few months ago Malthouse was of the opinion that a premiership was not out of the equation in 2014 - but a lack of fight and a lack of direction is crippling the side.

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There is enough talent in this Carlton list for the Blues to be performing far better than they currently are - indeed only a few months ago Malthouse was of the opinion that a premiership was not out of the equation in 2014 - but a lack of fight and a lack of direction is crippling the side.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-08/crisis-of-leadership-holding-carlton-back/5375148

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Murphy's post-match comments on Sunday were predictable in their banality, saying the team "let itself down", calling the loss "embarrassing" and promising we will see "a very good response this Saturday".

It was also revealed the leadership group sat the rest of the players down and revealed some home truths in the aftermath of the Essendon loss.

But where was this leadership on the field over the last fortnight, when points and pride were actually at stake?

Murphy is averaging 24 disposals so far this season, and while that is by no means a disaster he is struggling to have a tangible impact on matches.

Gibbs was anonymous in the tight loss to the Tigers and as speculation continues over his future at the club, questions have been asked of his commitment to the cause.

McLean was dropped for the round three match with the Bombers, amid controversy over his decision to remain seated on the bench at three-quarter time after being subbed against Richmond (although he pleaded ignorance rather than indifference) - his form had been poor regardless of the bench incident.

Walker was irresponsibly suspended for the Tigers game after throwing Port's Angus Monfries into a fence in round one, and he was lucky not to get more weeks after collecting Justin Westhoff in the head in the same match.

While the other four - Henderson, Jamison, Carrazzo and Simpson - may set high standards on the training track, none were able to show a cool head against Richmond or inspire any sort of fight against Essendon.

How can the rest of the team be expected to significantly up their game if the men they look up to refuse to?

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 07:56:34 pm

Quote from: ItsOurTime – on April 08, 2014, 07:31:19 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 07:23:01 pm

Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 08, 2014, 06:01:25 pm

technically, we were 0 - 3 last year this time

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

Maybe we can produce a 4 quarter effort sometime to shut everyone up

4 quarter efforts are overrated. How many games does a team win every quarter?

I don't know, I didn't say win 4 quarters, just not play total rubbish for a half of football. When's the last time that happened?

Essendon - nope
Richmond - nope
Port - nope
Sydney - nope
Richmond - nope
Port - nope
... Can't remember before that.

Quote from: ItsOurTime – on April 08, 2014, 07:31:19 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 07:23:01 pm

Quote from: thrunthrublu – on April 08, 2014, 06:01:25 pm

technically, we were 0 - 3 last year this time

and the same people had the same hissy fit this time last year and Mick shut them up in September, well for 2 minutes anyway.

Maybe we can produce a 4 quarter effort sometime to shut everyone up

4 quarter efforts are overrated. How many games does a team win every quarter?

Quote from: LP – on April 08, 2014, 05:12:22 pm

Quote from: madbluboy – on April 08, 2014, 05:11:13 pm

Posters here don't want to deal with facts.

The fact is we haven't improved, if we had we would be beating teams that finished above us last year!

In that respect nothing much has changed, in what is classed by some as our more successful period under Ratten we rarely beat teams above us on the ladder, we haven't beaten Hawthorn since Moses was in nappies.
You can't butcher the National Draft like we've done for more than a decade and hope for success, it's just not possible.