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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Professer E -Even if you can't get a kick, you can still lay tackles and put on blocks. Don't just stand there DO SOMETHING
Even if you can't get a kick, you can still lay tackles and put on blocks. Don't just stand there DO SOMETHING
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by pertz -I love your enthusiasm, but if Fantasia comes in and has another 25pt rating game it's over for him the moment other players get fit.
If we are going to carry a player getting single digit disposals and having little game influence, it may as well be a longer term project. That's just how I see it.
Generally, you have some senior types around the club on the fringes, it is so they can come in and do a job having an immediate impact without the need to learn the ropes. As horrible as this sounds, we got more out of Tutt, Lang, Smedts maybe even Clem Smith than we have out of Fantasia for a similar number of games.
Agree LP. Better to play a young developing player than Fantasia. He has had enough chances and shown zip.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by LP -I'd be happy either way regarding binns but truth be told he isn't vying with fantasia for the same role and binns doesn't bring afl experience to the table.I love your enthusiasm, but if Fantasia comes in and has another 25pt rating game it's over for him the moment other players get fit.
If we are going to carry a player getting single digit disposals and having little game influence, it may as well be a longer term project. That's just how I see it.
Generally, you have some senior types around the club on the fringes, it is so they can come in and do a job having an immediate impact without the need to learn the ropes. As horrible as this sounds, we got more out of Tutt, Lang, Smedts maybe even Clem Smith than we have out of Fantasia for a similar number of games.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by DJC -Player management doesn't allow that to happen anymore, the player managers want the talent given opportunities at senior level the moment they show potential.
So it’s a good thing that player managers don’t have a say in team selection. The vast majority will go along with whatever decision their player’s club makes. The rest will struggle to survive.
During our dire period, I would often compare the games our draftees were getting with the ability of the leading teams to allow their draftees to develop.
There are many youngsters who are more than capable of walking straight into an AFL team and many more who will be better players because their clubs allowed time to develop. Player managers looking for a long term return will prefer clubs that can give their youngsters a measured transition to AFL.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Adelaideblue -I reckon Binns will be a ripper, perhaps the next Berkeley Cox … if he sharpens his elbows 🙂
I think that the cautious approach to his development is more likely to bear fruit.
Despite some disappointment he is not in this week, I admit the old Carlton used to let them develop in the seconds for a fair while and that system appeared to work okay. Was it Curly Austin who did his time in the seconds winning their BF before promotion to firsts? Remember a HBF with long hair anyway.
cheers Ab
from the.........City of (empty) Churches
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by DJC -No of course not, Robbie Flower was a champion. Only time will tell how good a footballer Binnsie becomes.
Merely making the point that lighter footballers can make the grade, if they are good enough. Someone has mentioned David Glascott (71kg). Mathew Lappin (77kg) known as "Skinny" also comes to mind. Young versions of these guys would be handy to day!:
cheers
Ab
I reckon Binns will be a ripper, perhaps the next Berkeley Cox … if he sharpens his elbows 🙂
I think that the cautious approach to his development is more likely to bear fruit.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Baggers -No of course not, Robbie Flower was a champion. Only time will tell how good a footballer Binnsie becomes.
Merely making the point that lighter footballers can make the grade, if they are good enough. Someone has mentioned David Glascott (71kg). Mathew Lappin (77kg) known as "Skinny" also comes to mind. Young versions of these guys would be handy to day!
cheers
Ab
Just to be a smarty pants, I got what you meant, City of Churches. What about Michael Tuck? Way back, Ragsy Gould. Twiggy Dunn. Current day... King twins, bean poles. When his calves aren't playing up, Jack Martin goes alright. David Rhys-Jones!
So, as you pointed out, skinny/slightly built blokes can still do alright. If you're slight, you need a few tricks and core strength is really important. I don't see Binnsy being lightly built as being an issue, just needs to build strength. O Hollands is slight and gets pushed out of contests too easily, but makes up for it with work rate and tenacity... when he develops better awareness and disposal under pressure, he'll be a ripper.
One of the unique features of our game is that just about any physique can make it... except for really heavy, slow fellas.