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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by madbluboy -
Trump fans and the NRA going to town on him.

"Guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people"

Pretty stupid when the incident does highlight that guns kill people by accident.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by madbluboy -
Dan is happy to force spectators and workers at the Australian open to be vaccinated why is he gun shy here?
Wouldn't be worried about the tournament going to Sydney would he?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by DJC -
I think one of the problems is the Feds are perceived to be having a bob each way, calling for states to open up but then enforcing quarantine rules confuses the public, but I don't see those decisions as a contradiction at all!

They won't make any genuine changes for months, it'll be early in the New Year before we see significant changes if any. At the moment the current conditions favour vaccinated and healthy people, the politicians see themselves in that group with very few acknowledging their own age or fragility. That's a problem of human perception, old, frail or vulnerable is always someone else when the observer is healthy! But the risk is some new variant won't respect those boundaries, in much the same way that Delta has bent the age limits.

As much as some new variant can be a negative, it also has some positives, because vaccine refusal has plummeted as more and more youthful cases of COVID surface. There are very few youthful hold outs now, and rightly so, adolescents are no longer seeing themselves as immune!

As Dan Andrews pointed out on the wireless today, the Federal Government has placed a quota on the number of unvaccinated Australians who can return to Australia, quite rightly, because our quarantine capacity is limited.   Andrews said that it would be wrong to give priority to unvaccinated tennis players and I think that's fair enough.  I'm assuming that the returning Aussies have valid reasons for not being vaccinated.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by DJC -
How on earth does a live round find its way on to a movie set and in to a firearm that has been checked by the armourer?  There is no way that anyone with very basic firearms training could mistake a live round for a blank.

There are protocols for firing weapons loaded with blanks in the direction of folk on or off movie sets.  We were permitted to aim rifles and machine guns loaded with blanks directly at the "enemy" provided they were 10m or more away.

Ask Dean Cain (ex Superman Character) who's now a real life cop.  He knows this stuff back to front.  You NEVER fire a gun of ANY type on a movie set.  Baldwin's career is now dead.  As is his wealth.  Great !!

That is a ridiculous statement.  Firearms are routinely discharged on the sets of many movies, and most Hollywood movies.

Baldwin must be devastated but the information released indicates that he was told the firearm was safe.  If anything affects his career, it will be the psychological impact of accidentally taking a life.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Her father is apparently one of the best in the business and she learn't from him....but she had expressed doubts about her own ability with blanks.
Those doubts would have made me changing armourers...not really a career with much leeway for failure.
Many years ago My sister in laws ex did some pistol training for his security licence and was told the Experienced Instructor who was assigned to them had recently returned to work after accidently shooting himself in the head.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by Lods -
Did some lighting hoist design/green screen work for a mate who was working at the Docklands studio's and the College of the Arts and watched a few movies being made and its a fairly rigorous process to get a gun on set.The Armourer is the one who will cop it as all the firearm safety stuff falls on their shoulders.
I believe the Armourer involved in the Baldwin film has gone into hiding and with good reason....seems she might have had a few dubious events previously. Even on the student films I watched being made they had the best professionals, its not an area where you take short cuts, all the Armourers I saw were senior gentleman with many years experience not sure this was the case on this film set.

Her father is apparently one of the best in the business and she learn't from him....but she had expressed doubts about her own ability with blanks.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Ask Dean Cain (ex Superman Character) who's now a real life cop.  He knows this stuff back to front.  You NEVER fire a gun of ANY type on a movie set.  Baldwin's career is now dead.  As is his wealth.  Great !!
Did some lighting hoist design/green screen work for a mate who was working at the Docklands studio's and the College of the Arts and watched a few movies being made and its a fairly rigorous process to get a gun on set.The Armourer is the one who will cop it as all the firearm safety stuff falls on their shoulders.
I believe the Armourer involved in the Baldwin film has gone into hiding and with good reason....seems she might have had a few dubious events previously. Even on the student films I watched being made they had the best professionals, its not an area where you take short cuts, all the Armourers I saw were senior gentleman with many years experience not sure this was the case on this film set.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by Lods -
Looking straight down the barrel camera shot!

https://youtu.be/Mjkt4UgcTmg?t=123

yep
That makes sense.

From the LA times...

"Actor Alec Baldwin was practicing removing a revolver from its holster and aiming toward the camera during rehearsal for the movie “Rust” when director Joel Souza heard “what sounded like a whip and then a loud pop,” according to a search warrant obtained by the Los Angeles Times on Sunday night that also provided grim new details about the final minutes of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins’ life."

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by capcom -
Ask Dean Cain (ex Superman Character) who's now a real life cop.  He knows this stuff back to front.  You NEVER fire a gun of ANY type on a movie set.  Baldwin's career is now dead.  As is his wealth.  Great !!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Movie thread...
Last post by kruddler -
I see shooting has started on the new Alex Baldwin movie.

Whats the US take on it? If only the camera crew had guns they could've defended the crew from the bullets?

Been a while since Brandon Lee died in a similar fashion but i remember watching something about how that supopsedly happened.

Apparantly when you shoot blanks, sometimes there is a bit left behind in the gun, so if you reload with another blank round, it fires what was left from the previous round and essentially makes it a bullet. In that case it was deemed an error from the stunt coordinator who failed to check properly.

Not sure if its the same with all guns/blanks but a relatively 'simple' mistake has ruined multiple lives.