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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Federal Election 2013
Tony Abbot today confesses he "Is not the suppository of wisdom"!  :))


http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/liberals-squirm-as-abbott-refers-to-the-suppository-of-wisdom-20130812-2rryy.html

Cringeworthy. I kinda hope he gets in. Be like having our very own George W. Please keep up this level of humour, TA... we need the laughs... you little suppository of ...something..., you. :)

And don't you laugh, Rudd... you look like you've been given 10 suppositories which haven't  worked... yet... stand back :o
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 21: Richmond v Carlton (Pre-game Prayers)
Nothing to be gained by gifting games to players who aren't ready so the 13 players who could be considered for the coming week are:

Kane Lucas - fortunate to miss the debacle
Mitch Robinson - fortunate to miss the debacle
Matthew Kreuzer - fortunate to miss the debacle
Andrew McInnes - fortunate to miss the debacle

Nick Graham - has done enough to earn a chance
Levi Casboult - has done enough to earn another chance - seems to be over his kicking yips
Tom Bell - has done enough to earn another chance

Nick Duigan - not a world beater but will have a go
Jeremy Laidler - not a world beater but will have a go
Aaron Joseph - not a world beater but will have a go
Marcus Davies - not a world beater but will have a go

David Ellard - not sure if he has the necessary fitness levels - but would be in best 22
Rhys O’Keeffe - not sure if he has the necessary fitness levels

So who might be or deserves to be left out:
Judd, Garlett and Watson are injured
Waite, Murphy and Jamison played as though they were injured
Yarran should have been on his last chance, which he utterly failed

Who else?

No argument here. Love the way Davey Ellard comes in after a long time out with injury but you wouldn't know it - just picked up from where he left off.

I wonder if you were as bemused as I was to see Yarran in our best players against the Bulldogs?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
Last night the Doggies culture beat our culture. Their discipline beat our limp discipline. Their blokes knew what to do ...our blokes were confused and afraid. And that confuses me. A coach who understands war should be able to instil courage into his troops. But no, our blokes are hesitant, afraid and non instinctual.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
I'm not sure what the MC expects when Curnow, Cachia, Mclean, Bootsma and Rowe run out of the race -they're all fairly ordinary really. Then you add Walker, Gibbs and Simpson in defence and you make it so easy for opposition sides to clamp down on Judd and Murphy and you're basically shot before you even start playing the game. Surprisingly disorganised for a coach of Malthouse's standing.

As I have been saying every week, Casboult must play FF, Henderson, Waite, Jamison, McInnes etc for the other key positions and for god's sake put Yarran on the wing and bring Graham in if he's fit.

Bootsma fairly ordinary? C'mon mate have a good look - he's only just started, gonna be a long term Carlton footballer that one.

Casbout needs to be traded, can't kick!

Waitey is not KP FFS, I don't believe Macca is really either...!

Yarran, agree on the wing!

Settle there Knackers. Meat is back to kicking like a beaut.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
EB1/LP... that became crystal this arvo. Sad, but true. I watched Meat this arvo and he does and would offer more than Rowey and 206.

Baggers, 15 years ago 206 would have been a superstar, if he could influence the game like Sandilands he still would be. But having a bloke get twice the critical stats of an opponent yet be clearly beaten is a massive tell. If Kreuzer, Hampson or Casboult had 48 taps our midfield would have smashed the Bulldogs.

Makes you wonder how J. Madden would have done in today's game!!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rnd 20- Carlton v Bulldogs -Post Match Autopsy
Agree...Warnock is a dinasour and while Rowe gave effort today he had no imapact on the game at all and Casboult deserves a run.....I think hwile Rowe has another year to go he is destined for backup material only. Warnock needs trading out....I prefer Hampson who at least can take the odd mark and contest at ground level.

As much as Kreuzer tries hard he lacks polish, but he is young and works as hard as anyone on the list.

Hampson makes mistakes, but at least he wins some physical stuff other than just some hit outs.

Casboult might not ruck well but he can clunk marks.

All three do stuff that influences the outcome of the game.

Trade out Rowe and Warnock, unfortunately for Rowe he gives us nothing the others don't already offer. Warnock is just a giant diversion from the realities of modern football.

EB1/LP... that became crystal this arvo. Sad, but true. I watched Meat this arvo and he does and would offer more than Rowey and 206.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Politics aside, who would you prefer to have a few beers with?
If I am going to sit down and have a few beers with a politician, it would be one of the more interesting women - most of the blokes talk sh1te. And this gives me a far better chance of enjoying the interaction beyond the talk and beers  :-* Pollies have been doing it to us for ages... be nice to get one back ;)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 20: Carlton v Bulldogs (In Game Thread)
Glad I chose Princes Park rather than Etihad!

I got to see our blokes challenged but in a close one, steel themselves for a good win (3 goals).

Nice sitting on the blue wooden seats on the cemetry side watching a good game... warm sun streaming down.

Had a giggle at 3/4 time when coach got his players together for the big talk before resuming for the final quarter... Coach: 'How are we using the ball?'
Robbo: 'Fkn around too much.'
Coach: 'Exactly right'.

Getting home in time to watch this poor excuse for a game... how undisciplined and confused do our blokes look. Someone previous commented that it looked like the Pagan years - yes. Agree. And gee we really are starting to get into the habit of carrying blokes. Murph looks like he's trying to play to an instruction rather than using any of his natural abilities. Are we trying to mould a fox into a tiger?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Baby Blues vs. Sandringham at Visy on Saturday
Woops... forgot Graham - good, again, but looked a little tired at times. Tried up forward as a 'small forward' and looked likely, though on one occasion, running into an open goal tried to do the team thing with a cute pass to a team mate that went astray.

...and Robbo - was really disciplined and focussed. Took a terrific attitude into the game - good to see. Encouraging to team mates.

You'd look hard at, for a call up:
Robbo
Meat
ROK
Dinger
(interesting that all 4 have a dash of mongrel and are hard at it).
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Baby Blues vs. Sandringham at Visy on Saturday
Good win. Sandy came hard in the last qtr kicking the 1st 3 of the term bringing them within  2 kicks, but the NBs steadied, eventually though still losing the last qtr by a goal.

Lambert, Meece, Bransgrove and Wilson were really good for the Preston boys.

Thought our best of the Senior listed players were (forget some of the stats and in no particular order):

Ellard - good return.

Bell - best game for a while - put his hand up.

ROK - good off HB. Strong. Seems to be doing a 2E role - being groomed to release 2E into the guts?

Davies - apart from mediocre disposal, once of his much better games off HB. Ran and linked up well.

Mitchell - Waste.

Casboult - took some good grabs and kicking has improved greatly. When chasing an opponent at one stage ran past Mitchell (who was also chasing) like he was standing still.

Lucas - might have had plenty of touches but ordinary decisions under pressure. Still skirting the packs for easy possessions.

Buckley - was he out there?

Joseph - good. Liked his game. Has improved.

Collins - did some classy things but way too little. No second effort.

Dale - given minding roles, especially on one of their most damaging players in the final quarter - did well, though still learning the caper in terms of defensive positioning.

Duigan and Laidler did not play.