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Just watched the second half.
I don't know how we lost that game.
Seriously we absolutely killed them.
That wasnt a "10 minutes of footy" and win the game come back, we smashed them for a half.
Just didn't win.
If we're rebuilding there's no room for blokes like Rowe and White who are cloggers to the extreme. Rowe is what 27? He still hasn't made it. Time to cut him loose.
Did you see Warnocks shot for goal? I challenge anyone to repeat what he did, impossible. He kicked it with the side of shin so high up it was ridiculous. You couldnt do it if you tried. Thats a problem above the shoulders IMO.A few positives to come out of last night. Buckley was fantastic for his second game, I almost certain Yarran will now become a star and we started to look more like a footy team in the second half something that I couldn't see in the port game or in the first half.Agree with this to some extent. We need more pace and Army will definitely give us this and some mongrel if nothing else. We need to weed out the imbeciles who cant kick one by one or two by two if necessary. If they haven't learnt by now they never will. It is the single most important factor that costs us the majority of our games. HS reports 36 turnovers, none more telling than Warnock to Vickory in the goal square for a gift of a goal. Add another half a dozen odd shots at goal that went out on the full? Deplorable.
Put walker, armfield, Judd, Kruezer, Scotland, carazzo and to some extent Doherty and we are 50% better side.
I remember some years back David Parkin talking about the evolution of our game. He mentioned that right across the board, skills had improved - hand balling, tackling, running patterns,etc. you name it. Except goal kicking. The one area he said will probably never improve. If there's anyone out there who knows about the mechanics of goal kicking, I'd love to hear from them. The margin for error must be miniscule.
A few positives to come out of last night. Buckley was fantastic for his second game, I almost certain Yarran will now become a star and we started to look more like a footy team in the second half something that I couldn't see in the port game or in the first half.Agree with this to some extent. We need more pace and Army will definitely give us this and some mongrel if nothing else. We need to weed out the imbeciles who cant kick one by one or two by two if necessary. If they haven't learnt by now they never will. It is the single most important factor that costs us the majority of our games. HS reports 36 turnovers, none more telling than Warnock to Vickory in the goal square for a gift of a goal. Add another half a dozen odd shots at goal that went out on the full? Deplorable.
Put walker, armfield, Judd, Kruezer, Scotland, carazzo and to some extent Doherty and we are 50% better side.
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Yes, positive was we fought back in the 3rd qtr to lead when we had nothing in the tank. Run over by an outstanding, fitter running side in the last qtr as our fitness isn't up to scratch yet. No different to Adelaide Thursday night. Going better than what we think.
The lapses are the ones that still get to me. We were right on top early in the 2nd qtr then we let them kick 4 goal pretty quickly. woke us up and we kicked 4 of our own again but it's something we have to get out of our game. There's still that lazy aspect in out game. I'd like to be 5-6 goals in front feeling comfortable, not nervous.
I called it.You guys are confident, I'm not. I'll be happy with a win.
I've picked Port, we were pretty much even with them last season and we haven't had the best preparation with most of our best players under injury clouds.
Going alright to 3/4 time then badly ran out of legs. Reckon we were struggling to keep running by half time. Did a good job to come back again in the 3rd qtr but physically we were done. No different to the lead-up games. hope it doesn't take too long for the match fitness to get up to par.
Our side is frustrating but never boring. We can be so brilliant and so bad in the same game. Great start, the good, the usual nana nap, the bad, the 3rd qtr comeback when in trouble, the good, then die a death, the bad.
Warnock is a dud and we should trade him out......having a ruckman who cant mark the ball or play anywhere else but the pine isnt good enough in the modern game....I dont care how many hitouts he gets.
Casboult would be better value even with his diminished ruck skills...I d rather a player who can mark the footy and give us something around the ground and up forward. He can learn to ruck with experience.
Kruezer only plays well as No 1 ruckman and can be some value allbeit rarely of late around the ground and up forward....
Its a no brainer to me that 206 needs relocating to another club......
Id agree with this.
Elwood, where do you sit with MK, Yazz and Gibbs as other possible outgoings?
Needless to say the game against Richmond is going to decide whether this site internally combusts or if everyone backflips..
A big win against Richmond and last nights game will be seen as an anomoly. However, a loss against the Tigers will result in this site sacking our whole list, coaches, CEO, President, Footy operations manager, Media manager, boot studder, car park attendant, security guards, cheer squad leader and the catering company at visy park.
Cant wait..
Oh and last time I saw Casboult ruck he went pretty well.. Definitely not a terrible call IMO..
It's quite true that we had a lot of players who weren't able to get a good pre-season under their belts
The problem is that the opportunity has now passed them by for 2014.
You cant make up for that 4-5 month period of tough pre-season conditioning work during the regular season otherwise you leave yourself stuffed for games.
With a couple of players you could possibly manage by rotating players through games, but not with around a dozen or more.
The lack of a foundation puts them behind the pack when the other variation of training loads comes into play.
22 players had operations during the off season. A lot of players have had interrupted pre seasons so I never expected the team to be anywhere near fit. The way the game panned out shouldn't have been a surprise. We won't be hitting our straps for a while yet.
So is Krooz poor development or poor management? He looked a good player until the knee.
The real problem is not recruiting per se, it's the player development after they come to the club.
This thread is filled with criticism of Bell and Robbo, much of it unfortunately justified. Back when Bell and Robbo were recruited, the club clearly had a very soft midfield - recruiting a couple of tough nuts was the right thing to do. If you read this site and the old one over the years, there have been plenty of wraps for Robbo and to a lesser extent Bell over the journey. And plenty on here were very happy when we got them.
You can only choose from what is available. Gun AFL players are not a dime a dozen. You can't just waltz into the marketplace and order a couple of Sammy Mitchells, a couple of Joel Selwoods, a Roughie and fries to go. The club did the right thing at the time.
The fact that they (and others) haven't come on and improved is the really worrying thing for mine.
That's right. And that's why we got Kreuz; we had a real perceived ruck problem at the time. Now either we made poor choices in terms of talent or we have failed in the development, or maybe a bit of both?
