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Doc Gov Charlie Acres De Koning to name a few were worse than Cincotta.8 disposals 2 tackles. He was rubbish.
The others were too, but he's not a key player and we all know it. The bloke he was tagging was one of their best and got it 30 times.
It might be as simple as too many younger players and underdone seniors. Cincotta played poorly last week but he wasn't the lone ranger.
Strange selections. I change my prediction to Collingwood by 65 points.
We've seen a roll out of a change in tactics, and it's fine, but it's new and we haven't seen it capably implemented yet at AFL level, we are doing it in bursts and as we go we are learning about opposition countertactics.Im not seeing any plan B, just the same old rolling stoppage play, chip it around sideways, backwards then the bombed kick forward or glory pass that gets picked off. Its still that Soviet era stuff that lacks dare, run and any method of longer connection that leaves our forwards manned up and contesting vs multiple players and then when they do get the ball its a 50/50 on the accuracy for goal but thats another story.
For a long time we bemoaned the apparent absence of a Plan B, now we have it some fans want it thrown out because we aren't getting an instant result, but it's new and fans need to be patient.
I'm not nearly as upset about the tactics and coaching as I am about the poor implementation, because where it falls down are in the execution of basic skills.
We only need one or two quick players, or one or two quality bilateral players, and time and space opens up for everybody and you'll see the basic errors diminish. This is what the likes of Daicos, Pendelbury and Sidebottom bring to the Filth.
In the past, our slower endurance and strength based list missed a massive trick, they all should have been incessantly training their offside and the lack of leg speed would be a non-issue, like it's a non-issue for Sidebottom and Pendlebury. If our list had developed 80% of Diesel's handball skills and the same percentage of Scotland's kicking they be laughing, but it's too late as 28 year olds!
The idea that someone like Saad can make it through a whole AFL career and still be effectively a unilateral ball user is a condemnation on our club and the AFL system in general. It's a fundamental high level skill that is almost completely absent in our list.
Or there's a lot of hand wringing about what is quoted when potentially he's not talking about anyone in particular.Quote“But I feel like we’ve got the right group of people at the club to really band together and stick together.
“And we’ve got your mob this week, mate, so it’s always a big clash, big rivalry, which usually brings out the best in both sides.”
Maybe its just a subtle message for TDK.
Some of us were VERY pissed off with the list direction in the off-season flagging that had not improved our list in the off-season.
Some of us were VERY strongly aiming the cross-hairs on Lloyd and the recruiting department for taking this direction.
Voss is coping all the flack, when he was essentially set up to fail by the above.
The cherry on top was 'the saviour' doing his knee and being out for the year.
while i agree the LM decisions are bewildering imo Voss is still not the man. he is controlling a team that was supposed to be playing deep into sept yet lost to cellar dwellers in Richmond, North and pumped by Port.
Cant blame the LM for that.
I'm not saying we should have kept those players but we didn't replace them. We went for youth and that means we have to go backwards to go forwards.
It's the ones who won't and can sometimes that concern me the most
Who?
Those who won’t, those who do sometimes and those who can’t.
Newman and Kemp.
Like I said we are missing plenty from that season.
Anyone catch Daniel Hoyne on SEN? Talking about teams one at a time, started with Carlton and he said that our ball movement versus Port Adelaide was the fourth fastest this year by any team.2023 the same players used to execute. Has to be alot to do with attitude.
Carlton went from long, down the line, tram track football pre the bye to change of angles, speed on ball after it. It was plain for all to see that the players didn’t have the skills to execute. So the coaches tried changing things, the players couldn't execute. Suggested we may well go back to old faithful v Coll.
Could well be.Play the kids who will be hungry, result doesnt matter, lets find some players for 2026 and beyond.
Must admit that poster did nail it the last time he said it. Doesn't mean he will this time thought. might have be a coincidence last time.
Anyway, the lack of any hunger at training is more an issue.
Voss might enjoy the last 8 weeks if we give him some players who want to learn and give effort for 4 quarters, he owes Binns a game too after singling him out.
From a Facebook poster who went to training.
"I'm hearing Cowan, Moir and Evans will get a call up this week. Training session lacked any hunger and the skill execution was horrendous. Same same".
In the days I used to go to training, was in the Social Club then, 1981-82, training was always a good indicator of the next weeks performance. Needless to say it was usually pretty sharp but when it stunk the next week's game often stunk.