I think Malthouse/match committee/whoever made the call to bring in Joseph stuffed up. How many run with players did we have last night? This was magnified when McLean went down. We were breaking down along the wings because we had no option to kick to because our guys didn't want to leave who they were tagging.
TBH I don't know WTF MM was thinking bringing in Duigan and Joseph. They're not the future and they won't be here next year. Duigan cracked in hard at times and Joseph wasn't awful however, this is not in line with developing the side.
You miss the point, the Match Committee consists of Sticks Swan McKay MM and Wiley
Assuming the MC makes majority decisions, it is possible that MM and Wiley did not want Joseph at least.
We have a President and CEO that does Board and Football matters.
Carlton is a dinosaur.
Alot of assumptions that you, me and everyone here no fark all about. Happy to hear constructive criticism but suggesting stuff based on assumptions and possibility doesnt sit right with me.
I honestly hope to God Norf knock of the Filth next week, we their % at 120 odd, they will go in ahead of us. They deserve it more than our pea hearts.
If that does happen North would then play Collingwood again the next week.
and would be every chance to knock the off. As opposed to our bunch of softies who will go into a game touted as being "Master vs Apprentice" only to embarrass themselves and the club once again. No thanks. Lets focus on next year starting today.
I was at the game, our boys tried so I don't get the lack of effort comments. We're just not very good.
Dominated the game largely. At one stage had 16 of the last 18 scoring shots. And lost the game of footy.
Just mentally inept. And nothing to fall back to when the going gets tough. This was Ratts biggest failing, yet 12 months on I see nothing has changed.
I guess we can write off the season now, most supporters were happy to anyway.
Shades I wrote it off weeks ago. And youre right, nothing to fall back to when the going gets tough. If you swapped J Selwood for M Murphy last night and we win, plain and simple. But then again, why should it be up to to one man, there's 22 out their playing a team game. I realised last night in little snippets and passages of play how many individuals were playing for themselves. One classic example was Betts in the last qtr taking a difficult snap when Menzel was virtually free in the goal square.
I'd be disappointed if the club didnt call a meeting today or tomorrow of the entire club from the chairman to the boot studder and the sat around as a whole for open and honest discussion on that performance. CFC (Simmo excluded) brought themselves into disrepute last night. As I said earlier, I hope they learnt something from CheatsFC last night, how to play for your club, coach and each other, we failed on all three counts. At the end of the day its called DETERMINATION and we showed zero AFAIC (Simmo excluded, he is all heart).
Frees were actually 20 to 17 our way. Hit outs 41 to 23 our way, dont know how many to advantage. They laid 22 more tackles and we kicked 20 behinds to their 9. Its not the first time this has happened and along with our fitness is a high priority to be addressed.
Once again, Simmo. I dips my lid to you. You play with the heart of a lion and the passion that we all crave. You'd have every right to look elsewhere for a premiership. I dont think anywone would begrudge you if thats hat you wanted to do. I dont know how any of your teammates could look you in the eye this morning.
Dear All and Sundry, I haven’t slept since last night so apologies if I start rambling. I have been attending football games since the early 70’s, and a full Carlton member for 20 years. I divide that time into two eras; a long, frequently joyful one that I look back upon with great pride at a club that never let us down, and post the cap rort penalties, a 10 year period in which this once great club has essentially became a shell of what it was. During this second phase, there hasn’t been much joy, if any, at the footy. During season 2013 I took a deliberate step back from AFL footy primarily as I feared that the game has gone to places that I hoped I would never go. For somebody that grew up kicking the footy in the park until dark as kids, then attended 2 games most weekends and then committing to serious membership dollars this represents is a big shift in direction. I approached this game with great trepidation as I have a great sense of what is right and wrong, and the sagas of this season have removed the game from what it used to be. You worked during the week then you played footy on weekends. Now it is uber professional and some have taken it beyond that. On Saturday night I lost it, more than once, at the footy. The result infuriated me because to me it represented a mob who have done the wrong thing triumphing over a club that has played by the rules. I abused everybody and everyone – players, umpires, officials… the world. I said stupid things I am ashamed of in the heat of total frustration. This is not something I am proud of and I apologise to all and sundry for this. I realise that I have a serious issue and I am going to seek help for it. As a result I am going to step away from elite-level football and dedicate myself to doing something more constructive with my time, such as helping out at local footy and sport. I have been a member of this forum group since Brettie had 50 posts. I can’t do it anymore, the sport and this club have broken me and I must change. I wish you all the best in the future in your personal journeys, I wish the Essendon players who took any drugs to avoid any long term health consequence and I wish the game good luck because it needs it. Many thanks people and regards always,
I honestly hope to God Norf knock of the Filth next week, we their % at 120 odd, they will go in ahead of us. They deserve it more than our pea hearts.
Only 53000 there tonight, and thats being generous. I can recall such a poor turnout for such a big game. It was pretty much an even split. It of a message for both clubs in that i think.
Be a long farken time before me and three GTCs turn up to a game again. They have lost me big time.
I was at the game, our boys tried so I don't get the lack of effort comments. We're just not very good.
Nup - that's a cop-out mbb. Our blokes do not work hard enough for long enough, they pick 'n choose when they wanna crack in. Who leads? Who gut runs? Who works hard to be an option downfield? Where are our blokes around the stoppages? Where are our loose blokes on the counter-attack? Don't make easy excuses for them mbb, they don't deserve it.
Thats what i was so pi55ed off with too Brettie. No-one wanted to run hard enough for long enough. Thats why we had to bomb the ball so often and were so easy to read. Can someone explain to me our game plan?
How many times did Murph stream into the forward 50, only to meekly pop the ball up in the air to a 2-1 contest against? Is he fcuking retarded?
He would have swallowed those in the passed. I can only think that his knee is preventing him from getting penetration in his kicks. Having said that, we are no. 1 in the competition at lobbing the ball at players (the old hospital pass) giving the opo players time to run in and either spoil or intercept. We do it a lot across the board and its a basic skill error.
Totally agree Thry, Mick must be wondering what the feck he has got himself into.
Without a shadow of a doubt.....unfortunately I don't think Mick knows how to fix it, it's in that bad a shape.
I have never seen MM react like that in the box, i'd guess that he feels thats the worst loss of a football game he has ever been associated with (GF's included).
Im gob smacked as to how people can continue backing the players and pointing at the coach. These guys did the exact same thing when Ratten was coaching for his career and finals were on the line last year. A season on and our coach has been with this mob for less than 12 months and these guys have done it again with finals on the line again.
The players lost me when they failed to rally behind the coach. Why? Because they are a group that have been molly coddled to the point that they can only play well when everything is going to plan.
Miss a few shots at goal and the collective crap their dacks.
Its time for us to back someone to do whatever it takes.
The problem is that we think we can play like 'Mandrake the Magician' but have the skill and decision making ability of 'Bozo the Clown'
They try to do flashy, high risk things often choosing the wrong option (shots for goal rather than giving it off, handballing to players under pressure) when there are better alternatives.
Keep it simple....but that sometimes requires a degree of hard work. The majority of our players seem to fall into two groups. One lot has the skills....but don't work hard enough for long enough. The other work really hard but totally lack the skills.
