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5297
Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Key Players 2014
For mine it's the bottom six to eight... get across the board improvement from the Casboults, Rowes, Watsons, Lucus', Bootsmas, Bells, Cachias and Whites ... with the arrival of the Buckleys, Grahams, Menzels, Dochertys and whoever we draft. This lot will, in many respects, determine how well we do in 2014.

Sorry Baggers but you've slipped in to footy speak; we only have one of each of the players you've mentioned.

You're right about the bottom 6-8 improving though.  If we can achieve that, it will take so much pressure off the top 6-8 and make it so much harder for the opposition to keep our guns quiet.

Thomas, if fit, means that one of Murphy, Gibbs, Judd, McLean or Thomas himself will have the freedom to tear the opposition a new arsehole.

Rowe and/or Casboult stepping up gives us a genuine tall forward but the key to our success is Watson.  If he can hold down CHB, the ability to use Henderson as a key forward or swingman will give other coaches nightmares.

 :)) :)) :)) ... gotta love those Gary Ayresisms! (which I mentioned in a previous post after having committed the same footy speak crime).  :)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Key Players 2014
For mine it's the bottom six to eight... get across the board improvement from the Casboults, Rowes, Watsons, Lucus', Bootsmas, Bells, Cachias and Whites ... with the arrival of the Buckleys, Grahams, Menzels, Dochertys and whoever we draft. This lot will, in many respects, determine how well we do in 2014.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!
ruthless, power thirsty, shrewd, highly intelligent, cunning and highly manipulative yet charming embarrassment who can deliver exactly what his backers and funders want (the wealthy elite).

aren't these characteristics synonymous of sociopaths ?

Yep, and narcissists.

Important to understand that sociopaths and narcissists read so well (brilliantly) what people want ...and then know even better how to manipulate 'their wants' to support and validate 'credible' solutions.

Too much research has revealed that sociapathic and narcissistic management is very dominant, and effective... these people know how to manipulate perception...

How many humanitarian leaders have been assassinated? Many. Why?

How many sociopathic leaders have been assassinated? Very few. Why?

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!
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K Rudd has just retired!!! :))

Thank f**k for that, untrustworthy little prick.

This thread reads like the old Fremantle Workers Club at 11pm on a Friday night, Wharfies loaded up on amber fluid pitting for the downfall of their arch enemy.

The majority of the voting populace has voted and they opted for a change.

At least the vote wasn't made by the cash grabbing obscure Independents of the house.

That comment reads like someone loaded up on single malt whiskey at the Melbourne Club. ;)

That probably highlights the problems in any political debate.
To many generalisations and stereotypes.

There's a refusal by both sides to recognise strengths and weaknesses on the other side of the political fence.
It's a natural thing but it's strange how some of the most passionate of supporters of individual freedom and thought are so dismissive of the views of others.

It's why these things never end in agreement.....but they're funny to read. :D

If we all start agreeing with each other, LODS, things will become very boring very quickly... but in the spirit of your post, I did applaud the Howard governments initiative in including psychologists under MediCare (for rebates etc). And it was the Labor govt that reduced this initiative... disgraceful.

I think it's things like Politics and Religion....and of course Football :D where folks are usually pretty inflexible.
We have set points of view early on and it's difficult to accept an opposing viewpoint and give credit where it's due.
I'm not immune to that and have been particularly conflicted at times.
For most of my career I was involved in union activity, fighting for better working conditions.
I was a union representative and at one time a vice president of our particular branch...yet I've probably voted conservative at a federal level more than I've voted for the ALP over the years.

While that gives me a degree of impartiality it also has presented a conflict at times.
Tony Abbott doesn't inspire me to any great extent. I'd much prefer Turnbull, just as I'd prefer Albanese to Shorten (although he was pretty good in parliament today ;)).....but to dismiss Abbott as a dill, as some seem ready to do, is way off the mark.
Forget the  rest........You don't get to be where he is unless you're a very good politician.
Better than any of us who criticise him!
Whatever you might think about Hawke, Keating, Howard, Rudd and Gillard (and all those before them) they were all "politically" very good.

They developed contacts and support networks that enabled them to assume power...
And being a good 'politician' is the name of the game, because unless you have the power, you don't have the ability to really change things.

LODS! WTF... how dare you be so balanced, reasonable, fair and intelligent!

In all seriousness it would seem that when it comes to voting we are similar, though I would label myself a moderate/swinging voter. In my time on planet Earth I think I've voted for everyone except the Sex Party - next time!

You argue, very reasonably, that you cannot be a dill to get to the top job - agree. You do need to be a good politician, as you write... but what does being a 'good politician' really mean? To me, a 'good politician' is likely a ruthless, power thirsty, shrewd, highly intelligent, cunning and highly manipulative yet charming embarrassment who can deliver exactly what his backers and funders want (the wealthy elite). We should never mistake politicians as being the ones who really control this nation; any nation.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!
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K Rudd has just retired!!! :))

Thank f**k for that, untrustworthy little prick.

This thread reads like the old Fremantle Workers Club at 11pm on a Friday night, Wharfies loaded up on amber fluid pitting for the downfall of their arch enemy.

The majority of the voting populace has voted and they opted for a change.

At least the vote wasn't made by the cash grabbing obscure Independents of the house.

That comment reads like someone loaded up on single malt whiskey at the Melbourne Club. ;)

That probably highlights the problems in any political debate.
To many generalisations and stereotypes.

There's a refusal by both sides to recognise strengths and weaknesses on the other side of the political fence.
It's a natural thing but it's strange how some of the most passionate of supporters of individual freedom and thought are so dismissive of the views of others.

It's why these things never end in agreement.....but they're funny to read. :D

If we all start agreeing with each other, LODS, things will become very boring very quickly... but in the spirit of your post, I did applaud the Howard governments initiative in including psychologists under MediCare (for rebates etc). And it was the Labor govt that reduced this initiative... disgraceful.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!
[quote ]

K Rudd has just retired!!! :))

Thank f**k for that, untrustworthy little prick.

This thread reads like the old Fremantle Workers Club at 11pm on a Friday night, Wharfies loaded up on amber fluid pitting for the downfall of their arch enemy.

The majority of the voting populace has voted and they opted for a change.

At least the vote wasn't made by the cash grabbing obscure Independents of the house.
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That comment reads like someone loaded up on single malt whiskey at the Melbourne Club. ;)
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!


The general perceptions of the ABC that are touted by the Coalition are abhorrent, a swinging voter like myself fails to see the bias you report and many Nationals Party members actively support the ABC. But I do see a very real attempt by the Liberals to sway the editorials by withholding funding, canceling contracts or dismissing staff. More silencing going on there it seems!

But regardless, even if you think they have as much impact as a Jones or a Bolt you are gravely mistaken. They are the national broadcaster, they should be supported by the Federal government of the day, it will not always be the case that News Corp is on the Coalitions bench! In fact we have already seen since the election a flip in published News Ltd rhetoric from the pre-election "Get rid of these ALP hacks" to the post-election "Abbott LNP Climate Change Calamity!" But that is expected, they maximise their profits by creating debate and division.

Correctus absolutus.

Astounds and frustrates me that anyone could label the ABC left of centre. Next to a predominantly conservative or far right media in this country, the ABC may appear 'left'... but I see them as strongly objective and credible in terms of revealing 'deeper truths' (in an articulate way)... the natural enemy of the conservative mantra of 'deny everything and reveal as little as possible.' Although a sweeping generalisation, the old saying that 'conservatives love secrecy and fear, whereas, progressives seek truths and embrace change' holds some merit.

It was and remains embarrassing that when the Murdoch Empire used its influence to manipulate public perception (during the election in particular), and got away with it, that there wasn't a revolution in this country! Should have been. Any wonder his empire is known as News Limited... sure is limited, to entertainment and his personal agenda. It would seem we do have a President without having a republic... President Murdoch.

The fact that two of Abbotts 'mates' are Jones and Pell says so, so much. And none of it good. Jones is to broadcasting what leprosy is to human skin and Pell is to spirituality what Hitler was to humanitarianism. I'll leave comment on Abbotts fundamental Christian ideologies for another time...  :-X

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!
That good for nothing Gillard is out and that is all that counts. The other tools left will screw things up for us , but at a slower rate. Abbott getting in just shows how poor a job the Labor party has done of gaining the peoples confidence. Gillard and Rudd clown show over the past few years have cost them big time.

Wo, Green Stick, dear buddy. Those who've met Julia say just one thing... how come she doesn't come across on the media as she does in person?

The Labor Party shambles will likely keep the conservatives in for a good while. Shorten is a back room boy... and unaccostomed to being an accountable leader. Listening to him is like listening to some soft, insignificant melody.

The Labor Party will keep Abbott in the top job.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Abbott must go, arise Sir Malcolm!
I equally blame the left wing loonies for the fact the republic vote failed. OK it wasn't the plebeian model they wanted but at least it was the chance for a republic - a chance lost, and lost for many years to come!  >:(

It could have been modified by further referenda down the track if we thought it wasn't working but to vote "NO" at the time was a baaaaad mistake IMO and the only winners were the royalists.

On the money, there, Fluffy Biscuit. The very wording of the referendum and subsequent options doomed it to failure from the start. Should have been the simple question of yes or no to a Republic... then work out the model options and put them to the electorate for vote.

And, yes, the far left of the Labor Party has lost the plot... the far right of the Liberal Party has always lost the plot but now they've had two consecutive leaders (Howard and Abbott) who are only there due to the terrible failure of the Labor party to put forward a relevant / viable option.

Don't get me started on Abbott  :-X :-X >:(