Did the AFL announce they are going after the 3rd man up or just pulled it outta nowhere?
Looking pretty good so far. Not scoringand not putting ourselves in dangerous positions.
OMG more backwards BS and of course it costs us.
Looks like our skill/decision making will give them the game. Hawks are in 1st gear
Hawks crib the mark every time.... Standard of umpiring hasn't improved since last week.
Tutt... Lord help us.
I question the value of having Murphy playing behind the ball and kicking sideways.
Don't touch them!
Duck these umpires..
Honest to God who the fork decided to pick up Tutt? Tries his heart out but he is useless.
This is going to get very ugly.
Game over.
Honest to God who the fork decided to pick up Tutt? Tries his heart out but he is useless.
Hahahahahaha im still laughing.
Will be record loss at this rate.
BOOM! Cop that Breust.
Will done nick. now protect him fellas....
One in all in.
Yay. Holman.
Channel seven can go and frig themselves, their one eyed biased commentary is utterly pathetic.
The AFL has to do something about the umpiring and the bias they have against Carlton, it is an utter joke. That Simpson tackle... WTF?
Tha AFL has lost me ... SEE YA
Channel seven can go and frig themselves, their one eyed biased commentary is utterly pathetic.
The AFL has to do something about the umpiring and the bias they have against Carlton, it is an utter joke. That Simpson tackle... WTF?
Tha AFL has lost me ... SEE YA
Even the commentators agreed on that one, really bad decision, and we seem to be copping them lately
We seem to be experimenting at centre square bounce. Think I've seen kreuzer and jones there as an onballer when taking the tap??
Looks like our skill/decision making will give them the game. Hawks are in 1st gear
Agree. At this point, they're going very easy on us. A few pats on the back to some of our boys to boot. It's good to be pitied. Pity's very underrated.
Wasn't especially late but clearly a free.
Can't win cause we have nothing forward of centre and the "gameplan" is bizarre.
Tutt and Jones... Tanking.
5 goals straight after I posted we were going okay. :o
We seem to be experimenting at centre square bounce. Think I've seen kreuzer and jones there as an onballer when taking the tap??
Not that ch7 commentators have picked it up - too busy creaming over hodge and cyril
Not only does Jones not win the pill, he lets his man run off him to win easy ball.
Yarran has turned into such a poonce.
BOOM! Cop that Breust.
Then a 50, cause hodgey asked nicely for one
Quick poll. Will we score a goal?
Would it be fair to say we are missing Carrazzo's tireless clearance work and running?
how the hell are we supposed to actually kick a goal when you don't have a sole forward of the centre.
we have had a million possessions and when we do get it and look up, we don't have a target. That last forward thrust, if you can call it that fell in a heap because there were two hawks players in our forward line and their opponents, whoever the fk they are supposed to be, had gone for a tea break.
Our disposal is disgraceful, we can't tackle to save our lives always running with our opponent who has the ball rather than actually going at them to at least try to dispossess them, we are kicking backwards like Mick taught us,. and we are a fkn rabble who have got no fkn idea.
everything I said about Dylan Buckley last week, terrific kid, gets the ball, lots of enthusiasm, but no football brain as yet, has been on display tonight. Bell, just terrible disposal, Tutt useless, Liam Lones, Jesus, Blaine Johnson, not up to it Bokehorst has got no idea,etc. etc.
Put bloody Jones at Full Forward and tell him not to fkn move. He probably won't do any good, but at least they will look up and see a Carlton Jumper to kick to. Interchange Levi and Kreuz there if that doesn't work, but at least, John Barker put someone there.
This is a blight on barkers coaching at this point in time.
he should have at the very least done something about the forward line, and sent the message out to MAN UP.
Bloody Hell.
You don't win games if you don't kick goals.
You don't kick goals if you have no forwards.
Even if you have forwards,...they have to play forward. ::)
We're more intent on trying to keep the scoreline to a reasonable margin.
Well that ain't working ::)
So we might as well attack.....and bugger the score.
We seem to be playing a completely different style to our first couple of weeks under Barker.
Not only does Jones not win the pill, he lets his man run off him to win easy ball.
Would love to see the recruiting report that recommended we pick him? What were they thinking, and some people want him as a defender? Might as well save time and just give them the ball
how the hell are we supposed to actually kick a goal when you don't have a sole forward of the centre.
we have had a million possessions and when we do get it and look up, we don't have a target. That last forward thrust, if you can call it that fell in a heap because there were two hawks players in our forward line and their opponents, whoever the fk they are supposed to be, had gone for a tea break.
Our disposal is disgraceful, we can't tackle to save our lives always running with our opponent who has the ball rather than actually going at them to at least try to dispossess them, we are kicking backwards like Mick taught us,. and we are a fkn rabble who have got no fkn idea.
everything I said about Dylan Buckley last week, terrific kid, gets the ball, lots of enthusiasm, but no football brain as yet, has been on display tonight. Bell, just terrible disposal, Tutt useless, Liam Lones, Jesus, Blaine Johnson, not up to it Bokehorst has got no idea,etc. etc.
Put bloody Jones at Full Forward and tell him not to fkn move. He probably won't do any good, but at least they will look up and see a Carlton Jumper to kick to. Interchange Levi and Kreuz there if that doesn't work, but at least, John Barker put someone there.
This is a blight on barkers coaching at this point in time.
he should have at the very least done something about the forward line, and sent the message out to MAN UP.
Bloody Hell.
That's what happens when you keep 5 guys at half back for backwards kicks
HHawksgoing forward always kick to advantage. We kicked to Cas, 3 on 1 and he was in the worst position of all 4 players.
If there is a single failure it is our deplorable skills. Good skills will compensate for everything else. We have poor skills. An indictment on the coaches that have hung around our club for over a decade. Get rid of them all.
By the way, Rowe looks asleep, Jammo not trying to hard, Yarran, doesn't care and keeps passing to the opposition, Curnow, running around in circles, Casboult looking very slow.
And for the record, 22 Carazzos wouldn't make one iota of difference. he is gone and his bad foot injury will see him have to give it away.
You don't win games if you don't kick goals.
You don't kick goals if you have no forwards.
Even if you have forwards,...they have to play forward. ::)
We're more intent on trying to keep the scoreline to a reasonable margin.
Well that ain't working ::)
So we might as well attack.....and bugger the score.
We seem to be playing a completely different style to our first couple of weeks under Barker.
This.
Well done curnow, fine chase
And for the record, 22 Carazzos wouldn't make one iota of difference. he is gone and his bad foot injury will see him have to give it away.
You really have not much idea about football do you.
Henderson and Everitt may as well have stayed home.
maybe a team of 22 Kade Simpsons might have given us a chance.
You really have not much idea about football do you.
I was watching football and have been involved in football at the Club while you were still a spermatozoa in your fathers scrotum, you Richard Cranium.
We just can't hit a target to save our lives, our skills are as bad as any side I can remember.
I know we've got an inexperienced side in but this game is an embarrassment to our club.
how the hell are we supposed to actually kick a goal when you don't have a sole forward of the centre.
we have had a million possessions and when we do get it and look up, we don't have a target. That last forward thrust, if you can call it that fell in a heap because there were two hawks players in our forward line and their opponents, whoever the fk they are supposed to be, had gone for a tea break.
Our disposal is disgraceful, we can't tackle to save our lives always running with our opponent who has the ball rather than actually going at them to at least try to dispossess them, we are kicking backwards like Mick taught us,. and we are a fkn rabble who have got no fkn idea.
everything I said about Dylan Buckley last week, terrific kid, gets the ball, lots of enthusiasm, but no football brain as yet, has been on display tonight. Bell, just terrible disposal, Tutt useless, Liam Lones, Jesus, Blaine Johnson, not up to it Bokehorst has got no idea,etc. etc.
Put bloody Jones at Full Forward and tell him not to fkn move. He probably won't do any good, but at least they will look up and see a Carlton Jumper to kick to. Interchange Levi and Kreuz there if that doesn't work, but at least, John Barker put someone there.
This is a blight on barkers coaching at this point in time.
he should have at the very least done something about the forward line, and sent the message out to MAN UP.
Bloody Hell.
agree to the letter , can't believe we are such a rabble
Bet that list of coaches is shrinking , they are walking away if they were watching this
I was watching football and have been involved in football at the Club while you were still a spermatozoa in your fathers scrotum, you Richard Cranium.
;D
Have to finish last, last, last.
I was watching football and have been involved in football at the Club while you were still a spermatozoa in your fathers scrotum, you Richard Cranium.
Involved at the club... Explains a lot about our current predicament
Have to finish last, last, last.
We are not good enough to finish last
It ain't lack of effort, they are just too good.
Umpiring has been average.
Kreuzer has been massive.
agree to the letter , can't believe we are such a rabble
All of a sudden reality hits, maybe it wasn't all Malthouse's fault after all.
It ain't lack of effort, they are just too good.
Umpiring has been average.
Kreuzer has been massive.
That umpire will be in the 2s next week - can't give a free against Gibson like that! Almost as bad as giving one against hodge. Made up for it with 2 in a row to hawthorn, straight after...,
It ain't lack of effort, they are just too good.
Umpiring has been average.
Kreuzer has been massive.
We csnt stick a tackle and our second efforts are non existent. Yarran's defensive work is non existent.
F off Tartan, you're a disgrace. Try trying for once. Holman has shown more grit tonight than you have all year.
Lake must have felt guilty about getting another undeserved free
Get Yarran off now for the sub. He is a waste of a player at the moment. Kreuzer is awesome. He is carrying the side now
We csnt stick a tackle and our second efforts are non existent. Yarran's defensive work is non existent.
It's certain players that are letting the team down with either effort or skill.
Yarran is awful. Just a shadow of his former self.
Bugger me Jones!!!
Involved at the club... Explains a lot about our current predicament
And I thought you were a nice bloke, Shadesy.
Involved at the club in the 60's 70's and 80's. My old man was involved from the 40's till the 80's. Let me just say that we had the pleasure of Big Nics Company a hell of a lot and were very close to the Dominator, Jimmy Buckley, Harmesy, and peter Mconville, as well as the boards of those days.
The current predicament is probably Pass it to Carrots fault. ;)
Onya Jonesy. :))
Jones getting suspended could be the only good thing to come out of this game.
That was great!!
Report the fffing bastard... hodge straight in with the knees. Bloody dog.
This umpiring is deadset beyond a joke.
Loose man back... Yet we still kick it deep. Every time
Simpson is starting to drop off this year.
Backwards football costs us again.
It's certain players that are letting the team down with either effort or skill.
Yarran is awful. Just a shadow of his former self.
Oh, he's been shocking. But, why are kicking backwards against this mob. Did Barker do no research? I mean Simpson dropped the mark, but why was it being kicked to him, why isn't anyone making a lead up forward?!?!
How do you instill such a bad pattern of play , we have the ball on the wing so the first thing we do is look backwards and kick there? And yet again we are caught out , cannot understand this thought process
Simpson is starting to drop off this year.
Backwards football costs us again.
Simpson has put everything on his line. Like bignic, we need 22 of him.
Ohhhh Cyril, what a tackle.... Only ripped part of his head off... This is a joke. We know they are a super team, but do they really need the extra 3 on the field??
All of a sudden reality hits, maybe it wasn't all Malthouse's fault after all.
The club clearly has several cancers, yet unfortunatly lacks the ability to excise more than one at a time. Don't worry, we'll get there.
Tutt is deadset the softest player I have ever seen.
Oh, he's been shocking. But, why are kicking backwards against this mob. Did Barker do no research? I mean Simpson dropped the mark, but why was it being kicked to him, why isn't anyone making a lead up forward?!?!
I don't think the players have any more confidence in our forwards than we do , seems that way at least
How many times have Hawthorn kicked backwards?
Tutt is deadset the softest player I have ever seen.
He is a spud. Gets plenty of the ball but has no idea what to do with it and came make decisions under pressure. His first game for the Bullies where he kicked, what three goals with three kicks, was his best game. Peaked too early. I mean, he want for a goal in the second when he should have had the awareness to pass off. But he has the intelligence of a pea.
We are deplorable but it's not through lack of trying. This is what Shane Rogers has left us with and while I have faith in SOS, he might be a bit optimistic saying this will be a 66 game rebuild.
Having said that, the umpiring is an. absolute. disgrace. Honey moon period is over for John Barker.
(love Holman using a Hawthorn "spoil" against them) :))
They have got there ruckmen resting up forward. Why can't we do the same.
Simple, Barker in an interview pointed out all the deficiencies this team has got, and I thought that my opinion of him not being good enough to coach, was off the mark.
Tonights coaching performance proves that within the actual game, he has got no idea what to do.
We know the game is gone, but we are making moves on this forum, that any decent coach would at least attempt.
I don't think the players have any more confidence in our forwards than we do , seems that way at least
But why is their confidence shot? They've been competitive in the last few weeks.
Holman is a shining light.
Cripps has played his heart out.
Curnow has left it on the ground.
Everett has tried.
Kruezer has tried.
Simpson has made mistakes but he has tried.
Murphy has had 21 possies but had bugger all impact.
But why is their confidence shot? They've been competitive in the last few weeks.
My thoughts exactly - they are in a holding pattern, and have nothing to lose. Nobody is expecting anything of them, so why not just go for it ?
We are so inexperienced but FMD how the screw do they get 21-9 free kicks? Seriously?! No I am being quite serious - the CFC needs to stand up ffs and ask for at least a level playing field.
Meanwhile I've not seen Yaz live for a while but if he's not screwing everything he does up on purpose, I'll be absolutely shocked. There is no other explanation - watch him, he intentionally is doing the eff ups on purpose!
Simpson has put everything on his line. Like bignic, we need 22 of him.
Has been amazing for many years but hasn't been as reliable this year IMO. Probably has another year.
Thank god the game is half over. At least most of the players are trying but the reality is awful. Our skills are just so poor and there is no structure to our team. Just a bunch of limited footballers trying to varying degrees.
Can only think of a few that would get a game at hawthorn.
Maybe try a bit more one on one a d some harder tackling in the second half.
Holman is a shining light.
Cripps has played his heart out.
Curnow has left it on the ground.
Everett has tried.
Kruezer has tried.
Simpson has made mistakes but he has tried.
Murphy has had 21 possies but had bugger all impact.
Yep.
Watching the Fox Footy half time summary, everything we have said here, they are saying, because they can see it, yet you have a coach that can't.
Now what could be worse, is that Barker is seeing and understanding all this, has sent out instructions as to what he wants them to do, and these wonderful players who just LOVE the coach, are not doing a thing for him.
Probably says it all about that mob who will turn up to the cashiers office as usual and have their hand out to get paid.
Meanwhile I've not seen Yaz live for a while but if he's not screwing everything he does up on purpose, I'll be absolutely shocked. There is no other explanation - watch him, he intentionally is doing the eff ups on purpose!
He's doing a Nick Kyrgios! ;D
I reckon we should be getting beaten by about 30 points.
Yes, they are better. But every single mutha screwing free has gone in their favour.
They will win the flag chaps, make no mistake. The AFL has already determined it.
My thoughts exactly - they are in a holding pattern, and have nothing to lose. Nobody is expecting anything of them, so why not just go for it ?
Before the game started they interviewed Whiley - the coach Whiley - he said they were anxious about playing Hawthorn.
What the Actual F uck! What has happened to fake it til you make it?!
I was watching football and have been involved in football at the Club while you were still a spermatozoa in your fathers scrotum, you Richard Cranium.
Obviously still doesn't make you an expert NIC
If only we had some forwards.... And some system to get it there.
Boeky has shown a little I reckon, still look horribly panicky under pressure and and too light but finds neat options at times.
Gees we have some passengers and spuds, still need to cut this list hard.
I reckon we should be getting beaten by about 30 points.
Yes, they are better. But every single mutha screwing free has gone in their favour.
They will win the flag chaps, make no mistake. The AFL has already determined it.
yep pretty much
Meanwhile I've not seen Yaz live for a while but if he's not screwing everything he does up on purpose, I'll be absolutely shocked. There is no other explanation - watch him, he intentionally is doing the eff ups on purpose!
MickyO, I said exactly the same thing last week at the Freo game. Watched him all night and I said to the people next to me "he's on the take".
It's a terrible accusation, but some of his screw-ups (when your saw them live) were just suspect.
He improved after half time last week when it looked like Freo had control.
We are so inexperienced but FMD how the screw do they get 21-9 free kicks? Seriously?! No I am being quite serious - the CFC needs to stand up ffs and ask for at least a level playing field.
Not to mention;
- the tunnelling in the marking contest
- the 6 meter kicks that are paid marks
- the cribbing the mark
- the non-holding the balls
- the sniping off the ball
That dont get paid against hawthorn. They play unsociable football, yet that's the free count????
We are so inexperienced but FMD how the screw do they get 21-9 free kicks? Seriously?! No I am being quite serious - the CFC needs to stand up ffs and ask for at least a level playing field.
Meanwhile I've not seen Yaz live for a while but if he's not screwing everything he does up on purpose, I'll be absolutely shocked. There is no other explanation - watch him, he intentionally is doing the eff ups on purpose!
Even if the frees were 50-0 in our favour, the scoreline would hardly read any differently. Whatever we showed in the Port game, seems almost like a dream.
Judd carried us for years and now that he's gone our weaknesses are badly exposed.
Apart from Murphy we have a pedestrian midfield which lacks pace, we have no forwards at all tall or small, we have no outside runners with pace and skill and our one decent key defender is approaching the end and his best days are past.
Of our young players only Cripps looks certain to develop into a 200 game player, Holman and Buckley look likely but they could just as easily go the other way, we have no young key position players and no young ruckman.
It's going to take years and if we take anything from tonight it should be just how much work we have in front of us to match it with the best, let alone beat them.
Umpires are irrelevant to good teams by the way.
I thought we were bad. Tonight I really don't even know how to describe how bad it really is for us. Umpires are not helping, but we are just %$#@*$.
Even if the frees were 50-0 in our favour, the scoreline would hardly read any differently. Whatever we showed in the Port game, seems almost like a dream.
I'm not delusional I know we wouldn't be close but are you watching live at the ground? 90% of the free kicks to them Have been absolutely inexplicable- absolutely. And they are dirty divers too along with being snipers and corkerers! I will enjoy their downfall when it
Comes arse holes
Judd carried us for years and now that he's gone our weaknesses are badly exposed.
Apart from Murphy we have a pedestrian midfield which lacks pace, we have no forwards at all tall or small, we have no outside runners with pace and skill and our one decent key defender is approaching the end and his best days are past.
Of our young players only Cripps looks certain to develop into a 200 game player, Holman and Buckley look likely but they could just as easily go the other way, we have no young key position players and no young ruckman.
It's going to take years and if we take anything from tonight it should be just how much work we have in front of us to match it with the best, let alone beat them.
Umpires are irrelevant to good teams by the way.
Docherty ?
A fully fit Gibbs, Thomas, carrots, walker, graham and yarran (assuming he's not fit) would help the mid field. But it still doesn't help up forward - what the f do we do to fix that. Hendo is doing stuff all, but if he goes, we will have less than nothing up there
Not to mention;
- the tunnelling in the marking contest
- the 6 meter kicks that are paid marks
- the cribbing the mark
- the non-holding the balls
- the sniping off the ball
That dont get paid against hawthorn. They play unsociable football, yet that's the free count????
The guy who is now in control of the MRP, the Umps and what is allowed in football, used to be the Hawks CEO.
This is the HFL. He oversaw their rise as an football power and sticks his finger in every aspect of the comp.
Flag is theirs.
Our tackle rate and tackle efficiency tonight is back to as bad as it has ever been. I am struggling to find a decent player. Murphy getting the pill often but has no space to really use it properly.
A fully fit Gibbs, Thomas, carrots, walker, graham and yarran (assuming he's not fit) would help the mid field. But it still doesn't help up forward - what the f do we do to fix that. Hendo is doing stuff all, but if he goes, we will have less than nothing up there
You'll find that better players allow you to set up differently.
John Barker's job interview is about to begin
MickyO, I said exactly the same thing last week at the Freo game. Watched him all night and I said to the people next to me "he's on the take".
It's a terrible accusation, but some of his screw-ups (when your saw them live) were just suspect.
He improved after half time last week when it looked like Freo had control.
It's not that he's disinterested he dead set looks the other way when the balls coming. I don't know what the club has done to piss him off but he's making us pay now :'(
Simpsons tackle - Free Kick - :D .....to the opposition? :o
Rioli tackle - *after about the 3rd replay* "He may have got him a bit high in that tackle"
Replay...
(http://lesnabis.net/fights50/fights51/RANDYORTONA6.jpg)
21 - 9 free kick count. Guess who is winning. ::)
Boekhorst and Tutt are very apprehensive about physical contact...Boekhorts is that scared to make a mistake he is kicking the ball 5-10m everytime..
Umpiring is terrible but we are just being bullied all over the ground and have little response to Hawthorns bigger bodies and aggressive style.....I dont think I have seen a Carlton team that have so many light bodies and get pushed off the contest so easy....
Boekhorst copped a cheap shot from Gibson in the guts which hasnt done much for his confidence and Gibson needs some payback...
Cripps, Curnow, Simpson and Murphy are fighting it out but I want to see some other players lift and have a go back at the Hawks....
Bell has been disapointing and needs to get amongst it and Yarran has been diabolical down back and is next to useless in marking duels as he just wont make contact with his player...play him forward ..please....
I'm not delusional I know we wouldn't be close but are you watching live at the ground? 90% of the free kicks to them Have been absolutely inexplicable- absolutely. And they are dirty divers too along with being snipers and corkerers! I will enjoy their downfall when it
Comes arse holes
No I'm not at the ground. The pro Hawks bias is infuriating, but what is more infuriating is our skills, and the two are not related, and an excess of one does not compensate for a paucity of the other.
I'm not delusional I know we wouldn't be close but are you watching live at the ground? 90% of the free kicks to them Have been absolutely inexplicable- absolutely. And they are dirty divers too along with being snipers and corkerers! I will enjoy their downfall when it
Comes arse holes
AMEN
I was watching football and have been involved in football at the Club while you were still a spermatozoa in your fathers scrotum, you Richard Cranium.
Obviously still doesn't make you an expert NIC
Show me a post where I ever claimed to be an expert.
I'm just another punter expressing his opinion.
Mind you, I have formed that opinion having had a tremendous amount to do with footballers and the Club over a very long period.
The beauty of living in a Democracy, rather than living in Iran or Syria or Iraq, is that you actually get to express your opinion, without getting your head literally chopped off. That's what Carrots did, and I responded.
Carrotts and I have this long standing love affair and every time he has a go at me, I get a stirring in my loins. >:D >:D >:D
I treat this forum as a place to vent my feelings when we put up a performance like tonight. It's far better to do it here than kick the cat or belt the missus. The cat would run away, the missus would hit me much harder than I could hit her. So it's much safer here.
I'm happy to have a reasoned debate with anyone on this forum. We can always agree to disagree.
Boekhorst copped a cheap shot from Gibson in the guts which hasnt done much for his confidence and Gibson needs some payback...
Oh i forgot about Boeky.
"He copped a bit of a backhander did Boekhorst"
Replay...
(http://az705044.vo.msecnd.net/20141031/gut-punch.png)
Simpsons tackle - Free Kick - :D .....to the opposition? :o
Rioli tackle - *after about the 3rd replay* "He may have got him a bit high in that tackle"
Replay...
(http://lesnabis.net/fights50/fights51/RANDYORTONA6.jpg)
21 - 9 free kick count. Guess who is winning. ::)
..........the funny thing is, that's not even the worst decision tonight.!!!!!!!!!
Oh i forgot about Boeky.
"He copped a bit of a backhander did Boekhorst"
Replay...
(http://az705044.vo.msecnd.net/20141031/gut-punch.png)
Won't get rubbed out.
Mark Evan's will see to it.
The guy who is now in control of the MRP, the Umps and what is allowed in football, used to be the Hawks CEO.
This is the HFL. He oversaw their rise as an football power and sticks his finger in every aspect of the comp.
Flag is theirs.
HUH! You mean it is rigged?
You're on fire Kruds!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
HUH! You mean it is rigged?
No, I mean, he'll turn a blind eye to everything until it can't be ignored.
It's the Hawks way. Cheat, bash and apologise after.
Why wasn't Schoenmakers freed and reported?
What a way for Murph to celebrate his 200th. We really murder these milestone games.
Come on everyone, history proves that the umpires always favour teams that are either at the top of the ladder, or in a game where they have the run on.
Yes the umpiring has been disgraceful and is rubbing everyone up the wrong way, not to mention the commentary which is vomit inducing.
But it's not the reason we are stuffed.
...but they pay the buckley high tackle....and give 50!
F*** me....i'm over this game.
What a way for Murph to celebrate his 200th. We really murder these milestone games.
I was there when Richmond,, I think it was, beat us at the MCG in SOS's 300th.
Ducking umpires are effing cheats. Clowns on channel 7 have no clue.
No, I mean, he'll turn a blind eye to everything until it can't be ignored.
It's the Hawks way. Cheat, bash and apologise after.
The Hodge way!
...but they pay the buckley high tackle....and give 50!
F*** me....i'm over this game.
Agree - it's just rubbing salt into the wound.
I was there when Richmond,, I think it was, beat us at the MCG in SOS's 300th.
Twas an ugly day.
...but they pay the buckley high tackle....and give 50!
F*** me....i'm over this game.
Yep turned the game off after that. Umpires are too scared to pay a free against Hawthorn but it's easy to pay a kick against a bottom team who supporters didn't turn up, umpires are a disgrace. It's not the reason we're losing but it would be disheartening when you see Hawthorn getting away with murder like Simpson having his head ripped off then Buckley grabbing the number and being paid high.
BTW Barker you're not the one.
Barker in big trouble.
Ducking umpires are effing cheats. Clowns on channel 7 have no clue.
"A meter back, Brian"
Lake doesn't move a cm
"Thanks Brian"
????
Memo.... Do not kick to Liam Jones.. won't mark it, useless when it hits the ground.
Brian Lake, whacks Murphy high. - Free kick.
Jumps on him again - thats fine.
Umpire asks him to come back a meter.....twice....doesn't...."Thank you" "Play on"
Like seriously? I've seen better umpiring in the U10's
"A meter back, Brian"
Lake doesn't move a cm
"Thanks Brian"
????
Saw that!!
I ran harder than Tutt and I'm sitting in the stand!!!
"A meter back, Brian"
Lake doesn't move a cm
"Thanks Brian"
????
They just ignore the umps.
Can you sack an interim coach?
Should have 50.
Barker in big trouble.
Should bench any bloke that kicks backwards... Unless that's what he wants. Which seems like it is at the moment.
But Holman got rid of it!
Should bench any bloke that kicks backwards... Unless that's what he wants. Which seems like it is at the moment.
The backwards tripe has literally destroyed any momentum we may have had.
I have no idea where this backwards / sideways chip crap is coming from. Is it coaches instructions ? Is this the players idea ? Are they scared of taking the game on ? Are they trying to (God forbid) beat the Hawks at their own game, by attempting to play, controlled, tempo footy ? What the hell is going on ?
"They' whoever "they" are, reckon the bloke who will go number one is a beauty. This loss has smashed our %, so, we have a chance of finishing last if Gold Coast beat us in a couple of weeks. That's provided brissy can win another game, and we don't. We need to clean the joint out and start again.
I'm just being realistic.
I have no idea where this backwards / sideways chip crap is coming from. Is it coaches instructions ? Is this the players idea ? Are they scared of taking the game on ? Are they trying to (God forbid) beat the Hawks at their own game, by attempting to play, controlled, tempo footy ? What the hell is going on ?
It's simple. The hawks are flooding the area in front of us. Doing the "West Coast Web" which is the new "Clarkos Cluster". We either kick to a 50-50 at best, a 3-1 at worst, or try and run through them british bulldogs style and hope for the best.
OR
We keep possession. The only way to do that is to go sideways/backwards which if done right and quick enough, allows you to attack down the other side of the ground.
Is Mick available?
Ah Cas - has had so few opportunities, he's forgotten everything Sav taught him.
Is Mick available?
I believe so.
That Hartun goal says it all. They are instinctive with their skills. Our guys dont have a clue.
Is Mick available?
Who is going to start the 'Bring back Mick' thread? >:D
Surprise surprise, it doesn't matter who coaches this club, we do $hit. Maybe we should start looking elsewhere for the problem.
THEY. CANNOT. STICK. A. TACKLE.
100 points down, and not even the end of the 3rd.
I just watched Tutt in that passage of play that lead to Gunstons goal. OMG he is one of the worst we have ever recruited.
It's simple. The hawks are flooding the area in front of us. Doing the "West Coast Web" which is the new "Clarkos Cluster". We either kick to a 50-50 at best, a 3-1 at worst, or try and run through them british bulldogs style and hope for the best.
OR
We keep possession. The only way to do that is to go sideways/backwards which if done right and quick enough, allows you to attack down the other side of the ground.
Yeah, and they are pretty f'n good at it. When they show that down the ground footage from behind the goals, all you see are Hawks jumpers swarming in the 50ms in front of the ball carrier. Nowhere to go - even freo and swans found it hard... We ain't freo or Syd
Nice throw Lewis. Why tackle.. they aren't paid.
Unfortunately for Barker, who I think could be a great coach, of we lose by a record margin (more than 124 points) his propsects are stuffed. If they aren't already.
Also we're playing these blokes again in six weeks.
Who is going to start the 'Bring back Mick' thread? >:D
Surprise surprise, it doesn't matter who coaches this club, we do $hit. Maybe we should start looking elsewhere for the problem.
Nup coach has been awful last two weeks. It does matter who coaches.
Can you sack an interim coach?
You are in form tonight Krudds!
I just watched Tutt in that passage of play that lead to Gunstons goal. OMG he is one of the worst we have ever recruited.
Tutt looks bad but at least he gets involved, Jones doesn't get near the ball and Boekhurst craps himself every time he does.
Pick 19 for him, is it any wonder our list is so bad.
This umpiring is crooked. And the hawks get the free when the Carlton player is hit high....
Unfortunately for Barker, who I think could be a great coach, of we lose by a record margin (more than 124 points) his propsects are stuffed. If they aren't already.
Also we're playing these blokes again in six weeks.
This is heading for record territory in a number of areas. :(
Our biggest losing margin is 124 points against North
Our biggest losing margin against Hawthorn is 100
The most points we've ever conceded is 196 against the Saints
The most we've conceded against Hawthorn is 180
Is there anyway we can throw the towel in. And this would have to be close to our worst effort ever and the worst game of the year.
Nup coach has been awful last two weeks. It does matter who coaches.
Isn't that a contradiction?
Levi was good that quarter, influenced a lot of contests.
The way we are playing, we couldn't beat University, and they disbanded in 1915 ::) ::) ::)
Isn't that a contradiction?
Nope not at all.
Tutt is woeful but Jones..... FMD. biggest spud ever.
Nope not at all.
Don't elaborate or anything... ???
Just a numb look on the players tonight. The gap between us and them is immense.
2 to 3 years way from being competitive, with plenty of turnover to come.
We need a fresh start in so many ways, starting with new coaches.
Unfortunately for Barker, who I think could be a great coach, of we lose by a record margin (more than 124 points) his propsects are stuffed. If they aren't already.
Also we're playing these blokes again in six weeks.
Barker may be upset, but SOS is happy.
Gone back two months, this is the team that "played "for Mick, leopards dont change their spots, this is the most diabolical team EVER to put this jumper on, worse in every respect than what poor old Dennis had to deal with. There is absolutely no spirit, heart, idea, interest in this lot of frauds. There is no chance JB will get this job, and I for one dont want him or anything that even remotely stinks like Malthouse in charge. Dew or bust (but he may want the Crow job). I am so disillusioned I may just give the whole thing away, this modern game is complete crape anyway.....
Barker may be upset, but SOS is happy.
I still think Dew is our man!
We have to play them again this year :(
I just don't understand any more. Rioli gets caught, spun 360 and throws it away and it's play on... We get retarded for a microsecond and we are pinged. Rioli nails a bloke high and it's HTB.. I just don't get it.
I like Holman, but Tutt, Jones and Johnson just aren't up to it and never will be IMO.
Gone back two months, this is the team that "played "for Mick, leopards dont change their spots, this is the most diabolical team EVER to put this jumper on, worse in every respect than what poor old Dennis had to deal with. There is absolutely no spirit, heart, idea, interest in this lot of frauds. There is no chance JB will get this job, and I for one dont want him or anything that even remotely stinks like Malthouse in charge. Dew or bust (but he may want the Crow job). I am so disillusioned I may just give the whole thing away, this modern game is complete crape anyway.....
What about Campo??
I just don't understand any more. Rioli gets caught, spun 360 and throws it away and it's play on... We get retarded for a microsecond and we are pinged. Rioli nails a bloke high and it's HTB.. I just don't get it.
The reason you don't get it is that you're trying to be sensible, logical and consistent, traits that are absolute no-no's when you follow this game.
Whadaya know - a holding the ball and a 50.... Starting to even it up once the horse has well and truly bolted... Make that stats sheet look a bit more palatable
What about Campo??
What about Campo?
Most of the team tonight are looking very disinterested.
Docherty on the other hand....
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Tremendous effort to get in front of Roughy.
What about Campo?
Could he be our next coach, if Dew gets the Adelaide gig?
Most of the team tonight are looking very disinterested.
Docherty on the other hand....
Docherty goes flat chat whether we're 10 points in front or 10 goals down, his foot skills are average but I wish we had another 5 of him.
What Murphy did then, is the reason why he shouldn't be captain.
Jones aaaaaaaaRGHHHHHHHH USELESS
Could he be our next coach, if Dew gets the Adelaide gig?
Once again we'll be second best!
White and Rowe wouldn't look out of place on the Benny Hill Show.
Could he be our next coach, if Dew gets the Adelaide gig?
I thought you liked Campo?
Why the hell would you wish this upon him?
Maybe payback for going to the bombers.
White and Rowe wouldn't look out of place on the Benny Hill Show.
That's the most sensible thing you have said all year ;D
I'd say "training drill" but the witches hats at Waverley are probably more competitive than us
What Murphy did then, is the reason why he shouldn't be captain.
Who do you suggest should be?
White and Rowe wouldn't look out of place on the Benny Hill Show.
Must be the large breasts.
Drop the arsehole Murph sit him on his protected arse
White and Rowe wouldn't look out of place on the Benny Hill Show.
In better circumstances that would have been very funny.
Who do you suggest should be?
Holman!... why not? We just normally give to any good looking bloke!
I think Bell , at least has heart, it's not always about the best player & most possies
Jammo is finished.
Who do you suggest should be?
Kade Simpson, even if it's only for one year.
Murphy as captain has a duty to show an example to the team.
You take a mark 30 metres out almost directly in front, instead of trying to be a smart arze, go back and shoot for goal.
it's got nothing to do with how far in front hawthorn are, it's about displaying discipline and leadership and an example to others.
Holman!... why not? We just normally give to any good looking bloke!
Give the captaincy to good looking blokes hey...
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Kade Simpson, even if it's only for one year.
Murphy as captain has a duty to show an example to the team.
You take a mark 30 metres out almost directly in front, instead of trying to be a smart arze, go back and shoot for goal.
it's got nothing to do with how far in front hawthorn are, it's about displaying discipline and leadership and an example to others.
Simmo deserves a yr as captain, has been a real servant for years
OMG. I just realised Hendo is playing!
I don't think I have ever seen SO many people go home with still lots of time to play in a game.
Give the captaincy to good looking blokes hey...
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You ARE good mate, I'll give you that :)
A face only a mother would love.
OMG. I just realised Hendo is playing!
I think we need a head count to see if we actually have enough on the ground?
I LIKE WALSH!!!
Not possible to sack an acting coach is it?
I LIKE WALSH!!!
x2...has plenty to learn but does lay a good tackle for a little bloke and has a future IMO..
Not possible to sack an acting coach is it?
Didn't Hawthorn beat a fit Sydney side by 90 points in Sydney last week? And Freo by 60 points? Barker has until the end of the year to turn it around, but I've lost a little faith with the last few weeks tactics.