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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Lods on
It would take courage, but wouldn't it be a 'statement' at this point of time.
It might, in a bizarre way, be exactly what the game needs to happen.
Agree...That would be something and could be a catalyst for change, finding that player brave enough would be the tough task.
Maybe a gay senior AFL Administrator might be able to entice a few players to come out together and make it less pressure than just one individual having to shoulder all the attention they would get.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: Lods on
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/gay-afl-player-s-secret-relationship-raises-sad-question/ar-BB1m10Io?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=6cb0cc9f6f02486888a155ffbc8ebd1c&ei=16

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Funny this...
Ian Roberts came out nearly 30 years ago in Rugby League.
Women AFL+Soccer players seem to have no trouble with it.
Colin Hughes the gay footballer on Ted Lasso declared himself...teammates seemed more concerned he didn't trust them with the info.

I guess the question is...
Is it anybody's business?
Do we really need to know?
Is it important that we know"
Would it be a positive for young gay footballers, or would the atmosphere in a teenage team be a little less tolerant than a professional organistation

There's been a few players who have been 'outed' over the journey.
Most notably when Jacko outed someone on Live tv during a legends game.

There's the comedian Josh Lawson (?) who said he has had a relationship with a former brownlow medalist.

Plenty of people have been speculated about and plenty know it to be true, but nobody has 'admitted it'.

I think its time.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by Lods -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Issac Humphries in the NBL who is a prominent player also came out and that news was received well by the majority who play and follow the game. Given Clarko, Finlayson and now Powell of Gold Coasts slurs i reckon it might be a while before we see a AFL player brave enough to come out...

It would take courage, but wouldn't it be a 'statement' at this point of time.
It might, in a bizarre way, be exactly what the game needs to happen.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Lods on
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/gay-afl-player-s-secret-relationship-raises-sad-question/ar-BB1m10Io?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ASTS&cvid=6cb0cc9f6f02486888a155ffbc8ebd1c&ei=16

.

Funny this...
Ian Roberts came out nearly 30 years ago in Rugby League.
Women AFL+Soccer players seem to have no trouble with it.
Colin Hughes the gay footballer on Ted Lasso declared himself...teammates seemed more concerned he didn't trust them with the info.

I guess the question is...
Is it anybody's business?
Do we really need to know?
Is it important that we know"
Would it be a positive for young gay footballers, or would the atmosphere in a teenage team be a little less tolerant than a professional organistation


Issac Humphries in the NBL who is a prominent player also came out and that news was received well by the majority who play and follow the game. Given Clarko, Finlayson and now Powell of Gold Coasts slurs i reckon it might be a while before we see a AFL player brave enough to come out...
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Thryleon on
The issue is that the data used to support both sets of numbers were used to paint a picture.

The adverse reactions to the vaccines under reported as coincidences.  Likewise the number of people significantly impacted by covid were over stated.

The vaccine companies (all) made wide sweeping shonky claims afmbout efficacy to go with it and you end up with a scenario where most people questioned what the best outcome was going to be. 

When you strip it all bare, covid was no walk in the park.  It isn't the killer it was made out to be either but it left the general public questioning what was the lesser of two evils and real doctors were silenced on the matter and it became politicised.

Where you sit in any of it is subjective and largely determined by personal choices but I saw some extremely autocratic behaviour which I'm hoping never gets repeated.
Fair Points...Medical staff were banned from talking about side effects etc and the Big Pharma companies had water tight agreements to provide them with indemnity against liability in regards legal action for damages compensation.
Heart rehab centres were maxed out with under age clients in numbers never seen before.....I get its the Herd theory where some have to suffer/perish for the good of the others but companies like Pfizer would never admit the risks and the Government was never going to fund screening for prospective vaccine clients to check the risk factors.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Thryleon on
The issue is that the data used to support both sets of numbers were used to paint a picture.

The adverse reactions to the vaccines under reported as coincidences.  Likewise the number of people significantly impacted by covid were over stated.

The vaccine companies (all) made wide sweeping shonky claims afmbout efficacy to go with it and you end up with a scenario where most people questioned what the best outcome was going to be. 

When you strip it all bare, covid was no walk in the park.  It isn't the killer it was made out to be either but it left the general public questioning what was the lesser of two evils and real doctors were silenced on the matter and it became politicised.

Where you sit in any of it is subjective and largely determined by personal choices but I saw some extremely autocratic behaviour which I'm hoping never gets repeated.

I think there is a fair bit of hindsight going on, 3 Leos. At the time, we just didn't know. Worst case scenario seemed plausible and frightening.
Science and pollies were all on the back foot and unsure, and most were doing their best.
I don't recall any vaccine manufacturer claiming 100% safety; they spoke of the potential -- albeit low -- risk for some people, hence staying in surgeries/pharmacies for 15 minutes after the innoculation before leaving. But as troubling as it was to know, there was a low risk for some folks, as there is with every medication/vaccine.
In hindsight some pollies overreacted and some under-reacted. Few got it right - in hindsight.