Not every North player was enamoured about Pagan and his methods. I've heard Adam Simpson describe some of his "coaching" in less than glowing terms and Corey McKernan was not a fan either - he left to come to us, and checked out again when Pagan came across to us. There's two examples straight off the bat.
Kouta writes about it in detail in his book. It was 1980s hard ass coaching for a 2000s group that didn't respond to that approach. Some people would call them "soft", others would say they were independent enough to not unthinkingly swallow abuse and BS.
Pagan was the kind of coach you played to spite, not to because he was your mate.
I'm 2 pages behind, so sorry if this has been mentioned...
Pagan and Malthouse had long stints at their previous clubs, the entire list was "theirs" so players either bought in or withered and died.
When you transplant those "old" coaches to a new environment, straight away you get 40 guys saying to themselves "he cant talk to me like that, Ive played my whole career here and hes been here 5 mins "
Not every North player was enamoured about Pagan and his methods. I've heard Adam Simpson describe some of his "coaching" in less than glowing terms and Corey McKernan was not a fan either - he left to come to us, and checked out again when Pagan came across to us. There's two examples straight off the bat.
Kouta writes about it in detail in his book. It was 1980s hard ass coaching for a 2000s group that didn't respond to that approach. Some people would call them "soft", others would say they were independent enough to not unthinkingly swallow abuse and BS.
Pagan was the kind of coach you played to spite, not to because he was your mate.
Well he is currently playing like he doesn't give a F so he's getting some practise in early.
Toms money straight to Rohan. Done.
Marshall isn't as flashy but he's a reliable footballer - exactly what we need right now. Don't know how we'd wangle it though.
Yep I wasnt a real fan of Bryce Gibbs but he did show plenty of character and played some of his better footy when he had to come back after his trade request fell through and I think that enamoured him to Carlton supporters and enhanced his reputation.
TDK on the other hand if he goes wont be remembered for anything else but being a mercenary who gave us donuts in his last games and will be copping it from all angles when he lines up for the Saints and their supporters wanting 1.7 mill a years value every time he takes the field, he is going to be under more pressure to deliver than ever before.
Id like to see us get Rowan Marshall and have the better of that whole scenario with Marshall dominating for us...
Id be dropping TDK and Charlie Curnow this week, the former has checked out and has been poor the past few weeks and Charlie hasnt kicked a goal for three weeks and been half arsed and ultra casual about his work and Id have both in the VFL team for a couple of weeks to think about their responsibilities to the team.
If they want to sulk about it they can stay in the ressies, and in Charlies case Id put him up for trade if he wouldnt change his attitude. Voss has been reticent to drop big names probably because his job is on the line and he fears losing their support but I think if we had done it earlier on we might have sent a stronger message on how the club will be operating for the rest of the season and that when he said get used to being comfortable about being uncomfortable he meant it.
He was often maligned but one of the players who left us to go to another club who I really admire was Bryce Gibbs.
He tried 'unsuccessfully' to head to Adelaide at the end of the 2016 season but deal couldn't be done.
He didn't sook about it.
He came back in 2017 and put his head down and played some really good football, statistically one of his best seasons (43 disposals and 10 tackles in one game)
He knew he would try again for the move at the end of the year but still gave us good efforts.
Tom looks likely to go.
The least we can expect is that he plays in a similar fashion right up until the end.