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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by LP -
Take Rowell against us for example.  He had 15 tackles and virtually no impact on the game other than forcing stoppages, most of which we won (Rowell got one free kick for the game and that may not have been for a tackle). Rowell was basically towelled up and tried to compensate by tackling at every opportunity.  He would have been more effective if he had tried to win the ball.
This a great example, because if you looked at the game stats retrospectively you'd think Rowell has had a blinder, when in fact we know he had little influence.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by DJC -
Tom had six tackles against Port Adelaide and, while he had a damn good game, he wasn’t at the same level as he was against Essendon.  Getting the pill is usually far more effective than tackling, as is crunching packs, making critical spoils and taking marks.

Take Rowell against us for example.  He had 15 tackles and virtually no impact on the game other than forcing stoppages, most of which we won (Rowell got one free kick for the game and that may not have been for a tackle). Rowell was basically towelled up and tried to compensate by tackling at every opportunity.  He would have been more effective if he had tried to win the ball.

Then there’s Jacob Weitering; five tackles against the Dockers, six games with zero or one tackle for an average of 1.8 per game.  Tackling is not his job.  He will tackle if the opportunity arises but his priority is organising the defence and stopping his opponent getting the ball.  If he does the latter effectively, there’s no opportunity to tackle.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: State Elections
Last post by Baggers -

One of the big reasons kids and young couples can't get homes these days is because Kennett filled the pockets of Landlords with government funded cash to house all the inmates he had kicked out of the asylums.

You hit the nail on the head, Spotted One, with this important fact.

The terrible impact Kennett had on mental health in this state cannot be understated. By closing so many mental health facilities for serious conditions he created a hell on Earth for many families. Released into 'family care' these deeply ill individuals -- schizophrenia, psychosis, severe personality disorders etc. -- these families were left to manage deeply damaged/ill folks without any training or knowledge of how to treat the condition, whatsoever.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by Baggers -
Tackle stats are a double edged sword and largely meaningless without context, they can mean someone is hanging back hunting the player instead of being focussed on the ball, or they can mean they are first to the ball and being tackled themselves rather than making tackles.

So high numbers can be bad and low numbers can be good, or the reverse, it depends on all the other aspects of play.



Yep, Spotted One.

Let's use Cincotta as an example. Tackle numbers low against Merrett and co. But how many times did he dislodge the aggot from an opponents grip or arms? How often did he prevent his opponent getting the Sherrin due to excellent body position? How many times in a tussle at ground level did he knock the pill out and to a team mates advantage?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by Baggers -
TDK didn't put on a tackle - he did alot right but his tackling game went AWOL cant give him BOG his endeavour was first class but tackling intent was pretty low I reckon. He has and does and should do much better next time around.

Love your work, Fine Wine. But on this one I reckon you missed the boat. As DJC and 3 Leos mentioned above, TDK is a beast for attacking the aggot. He's an initiator. That spoil to prevent a goal was worth ten tackles. And how many times does he follow up his own work in an attacking manner? Going along beautifully is TDK.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 13 2024 Post Game Celebrations - Carlton vs Essendon
Last post by LP -
Tackle stats are a double edged sword and largely meaningless without context, they can mean someone is hanging back hunting the player instead of being focussed on the ball, or they can mean they are first to the ball and being tackled themselves rather than making tackles.

So high numbers can be bad and low numbers can be good, or the reverse, it depends on all the other aspects of play.