Is it over yet? It will be by the time I drive home!
Enjoy!
I love Simpson probably more than any other Carlton player but he's done. Father time has caught up with him and he needs to retire.
Weitering is horribly out of form and needs a rest or a spell in the reserves.
Thought Murphy had his best game for a while and Boekhorst actually showed something.
I love Simpson probably more than any other Carlton player but he's done. Father time has caught up with him and he needs to retire.
I was thinking much the same. If Bolts is fair dinkum, this is when a tap on the shoulder needs to happen.
I'm not a fan of Pickett but he showed something today... not much only glimpses but a Green Shoot for me ......
Farrrrk we blew it............ GRRRRR
we cough the ball up way too easily and way too often. Guys like murphy snd simmo front and centre sadly.
A very disappointing result in the end although Sellers seemed to be impressed with the way we largely closed down the Bummers after Q1. I have not seen the game myself yet.
CheatsFC would have lost to 16 other teams today, they played the only team that could save the game for them despite all the opportunities they wasted!
Thought Murphy had his best game for a while and Boekhorst actually showed something.
Agree on Murphy...Boekhorst just doesnt grab me at all....
Tipungwuti scored 144 supercoach points from just 16 disposals. That is a serious impact player right there.
I love Simpson probably more than any other Carlton player but he's done. Father time has caught up with him and he needs to retire.
Sadly I think you're right.
Sadly I think you're right.
x3, doesnt really defend so he has to be rebounding well and hitting targets but has been off the last few weeks.
Weitering the same ...first half not bad but second half didnt want to get too close to Hooker who monstered him.....needs some more kgs to handle KP players down back.
A very disappointing result in the end although Sellers seemed to be impressed with the way we largely closed down the Bummers after Q1. I have not seen the game myself yet.
I watched it, yes we shut down their run after qtr time but they over ran us. Alot of our blokes were out on their feet. We also haven't learnt yet when to pull the trigger and take chances.
Agree on Murphy...Boekhorst just doesnt grab me at all....
Nor me.
Our four inclusions didn't have any real impact, our lack of depth continues to be a serious problem.
We just try to strangle teams and drag them down to our level, horrible to watch.
Simmo was poor and looked slow and tired, but I think he could play a bit part.
I think his season overall has still been a good one and managed well I think he should have 1 more year.
As for the game, the score flattered us a bit as the Don's kicking for goal was woeful.
Weitering should be put out for the rest of the season, he looks shot.
Kreuzer is a monster this year
In summary, Jones is a beast, Pickett showed a little, Kreuzer should be AA, Captain played well but didnt will his team over the line, Levi is not a match winner, they should have won by plenty given the number of sitters they missed, father time has caught up to Simmo and Daisy, one step close to another pick 1, we've had 4, and we are still stuck at the bottom.
I shouldnt post after a loss to those cheating kents.
In summary, Jones is a beast, Pickett showed a little, Kreuzer should be AA, Captain played well but didnt will his team over the line, Levi is not a match winner, they should have won by plenty given the number of sitters they missed, father time has caught up to Simmo and Daisy, one step close to another pick 1, we've had 4, and we are still stuck at the bottom.
I shouldnt post after a loss to those cheating kents.
Having pick 1 doesn't help if you get the rest of your picks wrong. Only recently have we seemed to start getting them right.
They missed alot of easy ones but we paid them back in kind in the last qtr.
Turned it off after sos missed, couldn't watch and not surprised we lost. In fact I thought we'd lose by more. Of the little snippets I saw there was plenty to like about Pickett. Looked like a player with a bit of ****.
I'm glad they gave he supporters something to be begrudging happy with.
I could only listen to it, but it sounded like our skills were terrible.
Although the Scum kicked poorly we lost it.
We miss the second big body of either ASOS or Rowe down back. Re Simpson, he's way down on form and effectiveness and won't be part of our next major assault. I'd rather see us work with our preferred 6 down back, unfortunately st the expense of Simpson.
Don't understand the Daisy negativity, him and Wright probably were the reasons we got as close as we did!
In summary, Jones is a beast, Pickett showed a little, Kreuzer should be AA, Captain played well but didnt will his team over the line, Levi is not a match winner, they should have won by plenty given the number of sitters they missed, father time has caught up to Simmo and Daisy, one step close to another pick 1, we've had 4, and we are still stuck at the bottom.
I shouldnt post after a loss to those cheating kents.
We should also get a priority pick finally! Especially after that last comment, being stuck at the bottom. The AFL helped the Dawks pretty quickly but are VERY reluctant to help us. >:(
Kreuzer should be AA,
Should being the key word. played another blinder but doesn't play for a sexy team so will not get it.
Turned it off after sos missed, couldn't watch and not surprised we lost. In fact I thought we'd lose by more. Of the little snippets I saw there was plenty to like about Pickett. Looked like a player with a bit of ****.
I'm glad they gave he supporters something to be begrudging happy with.
There was one centre bounce where he came off the line and really cracked in very hard. Also laid a great chase down tackle. Thing is, that MUST be the norm not the exception. A few of his team mates should take note of the same also.
We should also get a priority pick finally! Especially after that last comment, being stuck at the bottom. The AFL helped the Dawks pretty quickly but are VERY reluctant to help us. >:(
The AFL won't give us a priority pick.
The AFL think we are tanking, and they refuse to reward such behaviour!
But you can expect a priority pick for Brisbane this year, jot it in now!
Don't understand the Daisy negativity, him and Wright probably were the reasons we got as close as we did!
Daisy's best game for a month I thought, he was in our best three or four.
Plowman and Marchbank are good players but they both need time in the gym in the off season, strong bodied forwards push them around and neither can break a tackle.
Should being the key word. played another blinder but doesn't play for a sexy team so will not get it.
You know what? I couldnt give a feck if he gets AA or not. He is AA in my mind, I wish we had another 10-12 with his attitude and desire.
The AFL won't give us a priority pick.
The AFL think we are tanking, and they refuse to reward such behaviour!
But you can expect a priority pick for Brisbane this year, jot it in now!
I suspect that's right.
If you come out and say you're "rebuilding your list" that's a choice you make...and we've done it very publicly.
We had to do it that way to keep the supporters on side.
But you cant say "we're stripping back our list to the bare bones...but give us a priority pick anyway."
It's our choice that we've taken this path.
That's the "out" for the AFL
It won't be rewarded in the short term.
Should being the key word. played another blinder but doesn't play for a sexy team so will not get it.
Yeh, Nick Bowen reporting for the AFL was obviously at a different game!
Carlton: Jones, Docherty, Wright, Petrevski-Seton, Murphy, Thomas
I wish we had another 10-12 with his attitude and desire.
Bloody oath - he doesn't mouth off or showboat he just plays football like it should be played.
I suspect that's right.
If you come out and say you're "rebuilding your list" that's a choice you make...and we've done it very publicly.
We had to do it that way to keep the supporters on side.
But you cant say "we're stripping back our list to the bare bones...but give us a priority pick anyway."
It's our choice that we've taken this path.
That's the "out" for the AFL
It won't be rewarded in the short term.
Yes, 7 and 5 wins in consecutive years won't be getting us a PP.
Yeh, Nick Bowen reporting for the AFL was obviously at a different game!
Carlton: Jones, Docherty, Wright, Petrevski-Seton, Murphy, Thomas
I always check the stats before doing my votes but without looking I had Kreuzer as BOG and Jones 2nd.
Yeh, Nick Bowen reporting for the AFL was obviously at a different game!
Carlton: Jones, Docherty, Wright, Petrevski-Seton, Murphy, Thomas
Who does Bowen barrack for, I'm betting a team with a ruckmen who is competing with Kreuzer for the AA spot! ;)
There was a stoush on radio earlier today, four or five commenting on the AA Ruck, all except one picked Kreuzer which surprised me. The other picked McEvoy! Nobody picked Ryder which surprised me, but I suppose it was a CheatsFC pre-game and Ryder's persona-non-grata on the CheatsFC broadcasts!
Don't understand the Daisy negativity, him and Wright probably were the reasons we got as close as we did!
Wright was good as he always is and while no fan of Daisy overall I'm going to agree with you on this one, I thought he played a good game and
was cool under pressure and would have him in our better players.
Must be some crape going down in footy circles atm re ruckmen as Sellers was really going out of his way today to boost Kreuz.
Wright was good as he always is and while no fan of Daisy overall I'm going to agree with you on this one, I thought he played a good game and
was cool under pressure and would have him in our better players.
My worry is EB1, by now I had expected to see some of the youth showing signs that the likes of Daisy and Wright would be the support act not the front line.
But I'm sourly disappointed, our kids look like the support act! Other than SPS, none of them look like they have the next gear to supplant Wright or Thomas!
We just try to strangle teams and drag them down to our level, horrible to watch.
Essendon should have won by plenty they strangled themselves...start of next season we have to be more attacking and alter the game plan to a more
hybrid model where we look to score more and rely less on strangling...
The Simpson, Docherty loose man down back and everyone else pushed up the ground plan is cooked...other teams are just manning us up now and
we are turning the ball over closer to goal..
We can live with it this this year as we develop but we must win these games next year. If games stopped at the 15 min of the last qtr this year we'd have 11 wins and playing finals. So we must take the next step next year and finish these games off.
We can live with it this this year as we develop but we must win these games next year. If games stopped at the 15 min of the last qtr this year we'd have 11 wins and playing finals. So we must take the next step next year and finish these games off.
Yes true Jim. I'm not panicking yet. We will get more young talent/depth on board this year and some more of the more ordinary players will go. I still have confidence in SOS and his team to get it right.
Critical errors killed us today.... Kerridge.... Simmo....
If we had a second marking target we would have run these hacks even closer.
Cant knock the effort.
P.s. Brendan Goddard remains a flog.
We have to cut our losses with Casboult at the end of this season, he's never going to be any better and he's just not good enough.
Necessity is the mother of invention and if he's not there we have to come up with something else, maybe even something that works.
Was disappointed as the senior players not the kids cost us in the last 5 mins again.
Simmo and doc made costly.
But cas had a fairly simply shot with under 2 mins to go to put us in front and sprayed it.
Smedts is simply a waste of time. Fisher doesn't touch the ball enough for a mid.
Pickett did some amazing things. Doesn't get much of the ball but could be something dry special. I would persist with him till end of the year.
Again same old story - again we have no one to guide us home when in a winning position late in a game.
No 1 pick is well in play..
I suspect that's right.
If you come out and say you're "rebuilding your list" that's a choice you make...and we've done it very publicly.
We had to do it that way to keep the supporters on side.
But you cant say "we're stripping back our list to the bare bones...but give us a priority pick anyway."
It's our choice that we've taken this path.
That's the "out" for the AFL
It won't be rewarded in the short term.
Short term????
We've been in the wilderness since they stole those early picks :o Whats that? 15 years now?
The Dawks were up and down since 91 and bottomed out in the mid 00's and bang they get a P Pick.
We have a case and should push it!
We have had more top picks than anyone and we're still garbage.
We have had more top picks than anyone and we're still garbage.
Because we've butchered our second, third and fourth rounders, as well as most of our first rounders apart from the number ones.
Watson, Bootsma, Yarran, Boekhorst, Menzel and Lucas were all first rounders in the last 7 or 8 years, all gone except Boekhorst who soon will be, we traded pick 7 for Jaksch and pick 20 for Warnock.
It's no accident that our list is in such bad shape, and it can't be fixed in a year or two.
We have had more top picks than anyone and we're still garbage.
True, wasted picks and failed player development.
Yet they are two things that have clearly improved in the last couple of seasons.
Perhaps they are the only things that have improved over the last two seasons!
We have taken top eight sides to the limit.
Essendon were at full strength and we were missing Cripps, Curnow, ACOS.
I still expect 10 wins next season
With the team we had out there today we shouldn't have even got close. I would rather be in our shoes longer term that the cheats and more than a few other teams.
Were not going to get close to getting a PP because we're not a basket case and the football world knows it.
I am hoping these games will help Fischer as I am not overly impressed with what I am seeing at this minute.
I am hoping these games will help Fischer as I am not overly impressed with what I am seeing at this minute.
This kid works hard and gets to all the right places, but fumble is an understatement.
He'll be an OK player, but it'll take a few years of injury free development. Having said that, he's yet to show as much as young Buckley did early on.
Because we've butchered our second, third and fourth rounders, as well as most of our first rounders apart from the number ones.
Watson, Bootsma, Yarran, Boekhorst, Menzel and Lucas were all first rounders in the last 7 or 8 years, all gone except Boekhorst who soon will be, we traded pick 7 for Jaksch and pick 20 for Warnock.
It's no accident that our list is in such bad shape, and it can't be fixed in a year or two.
Plus our 1st rounders have been ok players but not game changing gun players....Weitering looking very shaky too as a No 1 pick...
I am hoping these games will help Fischer as I am not overly impressed with what I am seeing at this minute.
he panics when he gets the ball... like a hot potato he wants to dish it off as soon as he gets it...... tell him to back himself to run and carry instead of wanting to hand off all the time.
Because we've butchered our second, third and fourth rounders, as well as most of our first rounders apart from the number ones.
Watson, Bootsma, Yarran, Boekhorst, Menzel and Lucas were all first rounders in the last 7 or 8 years, all gone except Boekhorst who soon will be, we traded pick 7 for Jaksch and pick 20 for Warnock.
It's no accident that our list is in such bad shape, and it can't be fixed in a year or two.
That's as spot on as it gets.
he panics when he gets the ball... like a hot potato he wants to dish it off as soon as he gets it...... tell him to back himself to run and carry instead of wanting to hand off all the time.
He is a Priddis/Mitchell...an extractor who wants to give the ball off.....he needs some more kegs on the frame, he gets pushed of the ball then is reaching around/fumbling the ball at times because
he doesnt have the body strength to hold his ground....he is a good player in the making IMO.
Since Jones got good I've been checking his stats each week to see how many 1% he racked up ;D
He's been smashing it...usually double anyone else.
Not this week.... Weitering's done him 11-8 :D
He is a Priddis/Mitchell...an extractor who wants to give the ball off.....he needs some more kegs on the frame, he gets pushed of the ball then is reaching around/fumbling the ball at times because
he doesnt have the body strength to hold his ground....he is a good player in the making IMO.
I like the young tacker. Shows plenty of zip and unlike Buckley, can lay a tackle and continues to harrass the opposition. He is the least of our problems. List if going to get a big overhaul again. Senior players should not be immune. The more picks we can get the better.
he panics when he gets the ball... like a hot potato he wants to dish it off as soon as he gets it...... tell him to back himself to run and carry instead of wanting to hand off all the time.
First year kid. That comes with confidence. Club increased his contract by 3 more years until 2020 so they must be happy with him.
The AFL won't give us a priority pick.
The AFL think we are tanking, and they refuse to reward such behaviour!
But you can expect a priority pick for Brisbane this year, jot it in now!
The AFL think we are tanking? Can you please back that up with something?
Surely you can't just throw that line out there without any comment to back it up. There has to be some standard even on a forum.
He is a Priddis/Mitchell...an extractor who wants to give the ball off.....he needs some more kegs on the frame, he gets pushed of the ball then is reaching around/fumbling the ball at times because
he doesnt have the body strength to hold his ground....he is a good player in the making IMO.
fair enough he's small and needs to beef up.... but even when he gets it in the open he wants to dish off instead going for a run
( that goes for most of our team they don't back themselves to take the game on )
Fisher has it all in front if him, blokes like kerridge, Smedts have no upside. Can't believe the handling errors Kerridge makes. As bad a game as Simmo has ever played.
Really worried about Weeters.
Plus our 1st rounders have been ok players but not game changing gun players....Weitering looking very shaky too as a No 1 pick...
Murphy, Gibbs and Kreuzer are all very good players in my opinion and would be even better in a better team, at Carlton half of the workload falls to half a dozen players but hopefully that's slowly changing.
I'm not in the least concerned about Weitering, I think he'll be a fine player for many years to come.
I agree with you about Fisher, another 30 or so games and he'll be fine.
The AFL think we are tanking? Can you please back that up with something?
Surely you can't just throw that line out there without any comment to back it up. There has to be some standard even on a forum.
How else do you explain so many years of poor performance and bottoming without AFL assistance?
It has to be that the AFL think our predicament is our own doing, as Lods mentioned it's the only logical outcome. All you need to back it up, is the lack of previous AFL support.
We should call the AFL's bluff and hand back the keys!
Since Jones got good I've been checking his stats each week to see how many 1% he racked up ;D
He's been smashing it...usually double anyone else.
Not this week.... Weitering's done him 11-8 :D
Was Weitering's best game for some months, I hope he gets back to where we thought he was heading last season!
Was Weitering's best game for some months, I hope he gets back to where we thought he was heading last season!
Hooker could have kicked six on him, I thought he started ok but got worse as the game went on and in the last quarter lost contact with Hooker physically and looked
very shaky, fumbled marks and cost us goals IMO..I know he is a kid and still learning but he has regressed this season IMO and I blame the move up forward.
He is not the player he was before that shoulder injury either...he looks shy of contact like he doesnt want to get hurt, took a couple of nice marks during the game like the old JW but in the last quarter like I said he fell apart IMO...
Hooker could have kicked six on him, I thought he started ok but got worse as the game went on and in the last quarter lost contact with Hooker physically and looked
very shaky, fumbled marks and cost us goals IMO..I know he is a kid and still learning but he has regressed this season IMO and I blame the move up forward.
He is not the player he was before that shoulder injury either...he looks shy of contact like he doesnt want to get hurt, took a couple of nice marks during the game like the old JW but in the last quarter like I said he fell apart IMO...
Agree with all that and as you said he's only a kid. The talent that we saw last year is still there. A good preseason and some more strength and he'll be right so long as there's no more moves to the forward line.
Agree with all that and as you said he's only a kid. The talent that we saw last year is still there. A good preseason and some more strength and he'll be right so long as there's no more moves to the forward line.
I'll also add Marchbank to my comments....equally out of touch if not worse than Weitering and his normally strong marking which is the feature of his game was also poor....delivery by foot isnt his strong point but I thought it was highlighted today by some poor decision making.
I think young players need to come back after injury via the twos to get touch and confidence back and in JW"s case he needed resting a while back, I know we have injuries to ACOS and Rowe but
we need to look after our young players and adjust when necessary. I'd be be getting Cam OShea on the rookie list next season and having some backup given ACOS will probably get promoted to the senior list.
I'll also add Marchbank to my comments....equally out of touch if not worse than Weitering and his normally strong marking which is the feature of his game was also poor....delivery by foot isnt his strong point but I thought it was highlighted today by some poor decision making.
I think young players need to come back after injury via the twos to get touch and confidence back and in JW"s case he needed resting a while back, I know we have injuries to ACOS and Rowe but
we need to look after our young players and adjust when necessary. I'd be be getting Cam OShea on the rookie list next season and having some backup given ACOS will probably get promoted to the senior list.
In an ideal world I think you would bring them back via the two's however the cupboard is bare for replacements. Longer term it may serve them better to do it hard in the firsts in any case.
I saw and heard bid and pieces. We were 5 goals down during the putrid first quarter. To get back in front
- did Bolton change things (move players, change game plan, other? )
- was it player lead?, if so, who were the players who lifted
- did we simply start playing as requested by Bolton?
With regard to Simpson, I'm not sure the slow chip around suits him. He has to me seemed better with getting the ball, carrying and kicking long, not chipping 7.5 meter kicks, stop and do it again.
Good fight back and resolve shown by the players to claw their way back and wrestle control of the game. It is very a good sign for a young team to completely stop the opposition in their tracks the way we did and control the game.
Weitering - definition of shot right now, looked shot before i went overseas a month ago and is looking worse. Unfortunately has regressed this season for mine and really hope he get back on track.
Marchbank - unfortunately his good is good but when he is off he looks like a Paul Bower clone, everything goes out the window, marking, kicking and decision making.
Charlie - keeps looking better and getting stronger as the season gets longer which is unusual, already up there alongside Cripps now as our two franchise players at the club.
Pickett - if only his disposal and decision making could improve we have to find a way to keep that pace in the side.
Charlie - keeps looking better and getting stronger as the season gets longer which is unusual, already up there alongside Cripps now as our two franchise players at the club.
Petrevski-Seton might have something to say about that, his first season has been as good as any I can remember in my 50+ years following the Blues.
Have noticed this for some weeks but reckon something is brewing inside the club regarding contracts.
The older guys such as Simmo, Murphy and Gibbs refuse to lift when the game has been on the line over the last 6 weeks all 3 just play at the same rate....last year that was a quality our senior players had.
Could it be Bolton has told all 3s futures will be discussed at years end and no one is safe? And don't forget Kreuzer has yet to re sign and Cas has already said he is looking around.
Apart from Kreuzer the older guys are not the same players as they were last year and please don't give me this crap that they can no longer do it.
Have noticed this for some weeks but reckon something is brewing inside the club regarding contracts.
The older guys such as Simmo, Murphy and Gibbs refuse to lift when the game has been on the line over the last 6 weeks all 3 just play at the same rate....last year that was a quality our senior players had.
Could it be Bolton has told all 3s futures will be discussed at years end and no one is safe? And don't forget Kreuzer has yet to re sign and Cas has already said he is looking around.
Apart from Kreuzer the older guys are not the same players as they were last year and please don't give me this crap that they can no longer do it.
Reading between the lines Shawny?
It may well be the changing of the guard and these guys are the collateral damage.
Kroooozer will resign but it will be just our luck we will lose an AA ruckman ::) along with our leading goal kicker.... again.
Have noticed this for some weeks but reckon something is brewing inside the club regarding contracts.
The older guys such as Simmo, Murphy and Gibbs refuse to lift when the game has been on the line over the last 6 weeks all 3 just play at the same rate....last year that was a quality our senior players had.
Could it be Bolton has told all 3s futures will be discussed at years end and no one is safe? And don't forget Kreuzer has yet to re sign and Cas has already said he is looking around.
Apart from Kreuzer the older guys are not the same players as they were last year and please don't give me this crap that they can no longer do it.
I agree there's been a huge change in those 3 this season.
Not sure what it would be though but maybe they are feeling they're about to get shafted out of the club.
I'll also add Marchbank to my comments....equally out of touch if not worse than Weitering and his normally strong marking which is the feature of his game was also poor....delivery by foot isnt his strong point but I thought it was highlighted today by some poor decision making.
I think young players need to come back after injury via the twos to get touch and confidence back and in JW"s case he needed resting a while back, I know we have injuries to ACOS and Rowe but
we need to look after our young players and adjust when necessary. I'd be be getting Cam OShea on the rookie list next season and having some backup given ACOS will probably get promoted to the senior list.
That sitter Mark he dropped for the bombres goal - did anyone else notice his hair was in his eyes?
I can't understand how you can be allowed to run out onto an AFL field with hair flopping around in front of your eyes without tying it up. Seems too stupid to be true. Can't think of many other players who don't tie it up.
I agree there's been a huge change in those 3 this season.
Not sure what it would be though but maybe they are feeling they're about to get shafted out of the club.
Or Gibbs has told the senior blokes he's on his bike! ;)
Or Gibbs has told the senior blokes he's on his bike! ;)
He's still contracted tho so he might want to go (and I believe he does) but unless there's a good trade he won't be going.
Or maybe the senior players are stuffed from getting the team back from 5 goals down that they don't have much more to give...
We can live with it this this year as we develop but we must win these games next year. If games stopped at the 15 min of the last qtr this year we'd have 11 wins and playing finals. So we must take the next step next year and finish these games off.
Very true.
Because we've butchered our second, third and fourth rounders, as well as most of our first rounders apart from the number ones.
Watson, Bootsma, Yarran, Boekhorst, Menzel and Lucas were all first rounders in the last 7 or 8 years, all gone except Boekhorst who soon will be, we traded pick 7 for Jaksch and pick 20 for Warnock.
It's no accident that our list is in such bad shape, and it can't be fixed in a year or two.
This cannot be overstated IMO.
We've failed miserably for multiple drafts. SOS has done wonders thus far. I expect another year of good recruiting and we'll look very different. Need to remember our 'talent' has one or two PS, or are kids still growing. Get another PS into the kids and the likes of Pickett and Marchbank and it will show.
We have taken top eight sides to the limit.
Essendon were at full strength and we were missing Cripps, Curnow, ACOS.
I still expect 10 wins next season
And Rowe, Phillips, Byrne....
If that side of drugcheats can only beat us by 8 in the dying minutes.... They should be worried, not us with 1/4 of our list injured and 1/4 just kids.
We'll get there ....
Have noticed this for some weeks but reckon something is brewing inside the club regarding contracts.
The older guys such as Simmo, Murphy and Gibbs refuse to lift when the game has been on the line over the last 6 weeks all 3 just play at the same rate....last year that was a quality our senior players had.
Could it be Bolton has told all 3s futures will be discussed at years end and no one is safe? And don't forget Kreuzer has yet to re sign and Cas has already said he is looking around.
Apart from Kreuzer the older guys are not the same players as they were last year and please don't give me this crap that they can no longer do it.
It's hard to lift when you're carrying three or four passengers!
We really can't hope to win when we have players who just don't get the pill. In some cases it may be worth it for the long term development of the squad. In other cases they are just making up the numbers.
Rather than questioning the effort and resolve of Simpson, Murphy and Gibbs, take a look at the blokes who aren't touching the footy.
Murphy has had a good a season this year as I've seen him play since 2011.
Time is catching up to Simpson. He's been a warrior and if we didn't have so much d grade talent he might get the tap on the shoulder.
Gibbs is Gibbs. What you see is very good and that's exactly what you get but don't expect another gear out of him. He just doesn't have one.
If Simmo retires and Gibbs leaves then, depending on who we get in, we could be even more stretched in the midfield next year. Murphy will likely stay and I would like to retain Gibbs also but our drafting and trading is going to be crucial. Losing two of those three would make things very tough next year imo.
One thing that has pleased me this year is our ability to adjust and get back into games where we have fallen well behind. Pity we didn't end up winning alot of those but it shows and ability to stem the tide with our ability to shut the opposition down and play defensively.
Hopefully the is our Plan B next year.
One thing that has pleased me this year is our ability to adjust and get back into games where we have fallen well behind. Pity we didn't end up winning alot of those but it shows and ability to stem the tide with our ability to shut the opposition down and play defensively.
Hopefully the is our Plan B next year.
That's a very good point Jim.
In previous years a poor start would have led to an absolute flogging but we have shown resilience to fight back. We just need to eliminate the poor starts!
It was disappointing to yet again give up a last quarter lead. We'd have to be close to the eight if we had won every game where we had led in the last quarter. More depth, a gun or two and another season's development into the young blokes and we will win those games.
IMO Byrne is a critical player going forwards, obvious Simmo replacement but the injury record is a concern.
If Simmo retires and Gibbs leaves then, depending on who we get in, we could be even more stretched in the midfield next year. Murphy will likely stay and I would like to retain Gibbs also but our drafting and trading is going to be crucial. Losing two of those three would make things very tough next year imo.
I doubt that either Murphy or Gibbs will be going anywhere, Gibbs is contracted and Adelaide have already shown that they are unwilling to pay what he's worth, and with Silvagni running things the days of Carlton being bent over on trades is over.
Murphy is Carlton through and through, he's our captain and best player and he'll play out his days at Princes Park.
With Cripps and Curnow available and the natural development of Petrevski-Seton, Cunningham and Fisher our midfield will be competitive with any, but we badly need a back up ruckman to cover injuries to Kreuzer.
That's a very good point Jim.
In previous years a poor start would have led to an absolute flogging but we have shown resilience to fight back. We just need to eliminate the poor starts!
It was disappointing to yet again give up a last quarter lead. We'd have to be close to the eight if we had won every game where we had led in the last quarter. More depth, a gun or two and another season's development into the young blokes and we will win those games.
Actually, if we won all 6 we led in the last qtr and lost we'd be pushing top 4, 6 pts behind a struggling Geelong. Hopefully those "ifs" becomes "whens" next year.