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Reply #15 –
Ahh, the wonders of triple baseline accounting! ;D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #16 –
Quote from: capcom – on
The fanciful notion that we can ever replace fossil fuels without embracing nuclear is stupid in the extreme.  I have a 16 panel solar system, NOT because I want them, but rather forced to do so by insane power bills.

I've got the same....and i'm not sure what you are getting, but financially, its not really worth it. The buyback is BS nowadays. When i first got it it was 3x as much.

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Reply #17 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I've got the same....and i'm not sure what you are getting, but financially, its not really worth it. The buyback is BS nowadays. When i first got it it was 3x as much.
Yes, that is quite interesting feedback. The tariffs are now being scaled back, and the subsidies / incentives are evaporating as well, further my associates wish good luck for many purchasers if they find the panels do not last the warrantied lifetime. One associate tells me some of the panels are so feeble they should be sold at 1/5th the price and replaced after 5 years for free!

Not only that, but the importers folding well within the time period of the guarantee, long before the liabilities arise, the installers close up as bankrupts leaving a trail of bills and the factory that originally made the stuff is long long gone!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

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Reply #18 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
I've got the same....and i'm not sure what you are getting, but financially, its not really worth it. The buyback is BS nowadays. When i first got it it was 3x as much.
But but but, our Green comrades tell us its the way of the future. Little Greta tells us so therefore it must be.
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Reply #19 –
Quote from: LP – on
Yes, I note the renewable activists a few weeks back lauding the UK for going 3 or 4 months this year without firing up a coal fired plant, but they conveniently neglect to tell you the intermittent shortfalls are made up by importing energy much of which come from nuclear sites dotted around the EU.

I have a great friend in the UK (owns a small house) and her bills are eye watering in the extreme.  Double mine without my solar feed in rebate. 

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Reply #20 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
But but but, our Green comrades tell us its the way of the future. Little Greta tells us so therefore it must be.
In fairness @Gointocarlton, those two separate issues, climate change and renewable energy, should probably not be conflated. The little girl is somewhat a pawn without realising the dollars behind "renewable$"!

Renewable energy is deviously correlated with / as green energy, but that is clearly not the case in many instances! As you know, anyone who has viewed a rare earth mine or copper mine knows otherwise! If you really, really, really wanted to save the planet, you be building nuclear plants a decade ago.

There is irony in Australia having one of the worlds largest reserves of uranium not having nuclear because "it's dirty", yet we are about to be paid handsomely for collecting the nuclear waste of other countries and storing it back here, "back where it came from" long before our dirty uranium provided those countries with many gigawatt years of cheap low carbon energy, which now allows them to point those critical fingers at Australia's coal! Some more unsavoury to think about for the weekend!

When do we start returning waste to or taxing the OPEC members for all those car emissions?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #21 –
Quote from: LP – on
Not only that, but the importers folding well within the time period of the guarantee, long before the liabilities arise, the installers close up as bankrupts leaving a trail of bills and the factory that originally made the stuff is long long gone!

Essendon sponsor ... True Value Solar.  Broke and out of business.   

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Reply #22 –
Quote from: capcom – on
I have a great friend in the UK (owns a small house) and her bills are eye watering in the extreme.  Double mine without my solar feed in rebate. 
I've heard it said that in the UK they pay about 6x the energy rate compared to consumers in countries the UK buys it's nuclear top up energy from!

btw., The nuclear top up energy is not nuclear, the UK doesn't buy that dirty stuff, those countries only export green offset energy and have to keep the dirty nuclear to themself! ;D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Essendon sponsor ... True Value Solar.  Broke and out of business.   
 Didn't realise they had folded, but there goes the consumers 10 or 20 year warranty on the panels!
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Reply #24 –
Quote from: LP – on
Didn't realise they had folded, but there goes the consumers 10 or 20 year warranty on the panels!

Not a great deal different from the overnight "companies" that installed pink batts.  Quick kill.


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Reply #25 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Not a great deal different from the overnight "companies" that installed pink batts.  Quick kill.
I suppose CheatsFC will beg the AFL or state government for supplementary funding to cover the shortfall from their plummeting memberships and loss of sponsors!

Then they will argue they deserve the prime time slots because they are the biggest most popular highest rating club in the land!

This has weird parallels to another thread that we debate today!
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Reply #26 –
Might find ourselves in a similar position with Virgin.  As will the AFL.  Qantas might not wanna touch them again, but there's another carrier out there :) 

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Reply #27 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Might find ourselves in a similar position with Virgin.  As will the AFL.  Qantas might not wanna touch them again, but there's another carrier out there :) 
Cap...whats your opinion on Rex getting into the domestic capital city routes?.. how does that work for Qantas when the govt have bailed them out but allowed Rex to compete with them on a couple of major routes.

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Reply #28 –
Hi EB.  Zero.  By the time Qantas ramps up, they'll swamp them with schedules / capacity and fares.  They have no background in jet operations, airport gate management, and will need far greater staff numbers with checkins at airports where they might become a familiar entity.  Never happens overnight.  The killing blow where they expect regional route integration with the mainline MEL SYD BNE jets is fantasy when their far more powerful rival services those same smaller ports.

A fleet of SAAB 34 seat turbos is a LOT different to operating 737s as well.  It'll be a sick repeat of Compass and Impulse.

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Reply #29 –
Quote from: capcom – on
Hi EB.  Zero.  By the time Qantas ramps up, they'll swamp them with schedules / capacity and fares.  They have no background in jet operations, airport gate management, and will need far greater staff numbers with checkins at airports where they might become a familiar entity.  Never happens overnight.  The killing blow where they expect regional route integration with the mainline MEL SYD BNE jets is fantasy when their far more powerful rival services those same smaller ports.

A fleet of SAAB 34 seat turbos is a LOT different to operating 737s as well.  It'll be a sick repeat of Compass and Impulse.
They have been spruking cheaper fares but with all those setup costs you listed I cant see how they will make a dollar. They are really foreign owned which I didnt know, share price has been flying(pardon the pun), up 14% today to an all time 5 year high and they pay a handy 6% dividend too. 100,000 tickets on sale starting at $79 Melb to Syd, they have backing from a Asia Pacific Finance group called PAG holdings who manage 40 Billion dollars worth of dough and have already sunk 200 mill into Rex.
PAG have two directors now on the Rex board, given the background of the Rex Chairman Lim Kim Hai and PAGs investment this is essentially a foreign airline operating under the Rex banner so I dont get why our Government are allowing them to operate the City routes when Qantas are sacking staff and on the drip feed for money.
Throw in Virgin and its a real mess IMO.....