Carlton Supporters Club

I'm a keen follower of politics but a fairly impartial voter....I'm more concerned with the process and the twists and turns rather than favouring a political side.
I find it fascinating...never miss a Question time.
I'm also very cynical about the motives of pollies and judge them more on how they manipulate and manage situations rather than their policies.... because at the end of the day they're all about gaining and maintaining power.
The best ones do that well.

Think what you will about him...Tony Abbott has in the past proven to be a pretty astute politician...Let's face it....You don't get to be PM if you don't have some skills in that area.

That's why I find the decision to 'grant' a knighthood to Prince Phillip incredulous.
What was the bloke thinking?
It is a dumb move politically.
It's a dumb move for monarchists
It's a dumb move for the Liberal party.

He wont be PM by the middle of the year...if he lasts that long.

....and it's a move that's given a huge boost to the Republican movement.

I think from this point Abbott is a "dead man walking".
It's now a question of who and when.
Turnbull strikes me as a 'lazy' politician....not necessarily in terms of his work ethic in his portfolio but in the political sense... i.e. in terms of working hard enough to gain the leadership and then keeping it.

Bishop is the flavour of the month and has performed well...but under the scrutiny of a being a potential PM it will be interesting to see if she stays strong or a few cracks start to appear.

Quote from: Lods – on January 26, 2015, 06:29:00 pm

I'm a keen follower of politics but a fairly impartial voter....I'm more concerned with the process and the twists and turns rather than favouring a political side.
I find it fascinating...never miss a Question time.
I'm also very cynical about the motives of pollies and judge them more on how they manipulate and manage situations rather than their policies.... because at the end of the day they're all about gaining and maintaining power.
The best ones do that well.

Think what you will about him...Tony Abbott has in the past proven to be a pretty astute politician...Let's face it....You don't get to be PM if you don't have some skills in that area.

That's why I find the decision to 'grant' a knighthood to Prince Phillip incredulous.
What was the bloke thinking?
It is a dumb move politically.
It's a dumb move for monarchists
It's a dumb move for the Liberal party.

He wont be PM by the middle of the year...if he lasts that long.

....and it's a move that's given a huge boost to the Republican movement.

Amazing really. Abbott keeps stumbling. So much easier being a one trick Opposition Leader...just say No and promise the World. Labor are playing it smart really. Keeping it relatively clean, sitting back and letting them eat their own. With Mr.Charisma Bill Shorten, they've been lucky in that regard. Mind you, my Liberal fanboy mate actually met Shorten in his electorate and was very impressed by him..that says a lot if you knew my capitalist mate.

Anyway. Interesting call you think the middle of the year Lods. Big call. I wonder if the QLD vote will be another serious blow. From memory though the QLD crowd will vote in the LNP intent on destroying the Reef and pocking gaseous holes all over Australia's prime farm land...what they haven't sold off to foreign investors to feed their on populations on back in Asia. Bloody tragic. Quite telling that the current Prime Minister is not welcome in QLD at the moment. How telling is that!

As for the LNP. Ms. Bishop would be a hell of a leader I'd say. Smart, incredibly hard working and with a death stare a Sith would be proud off. She surely would be more moderate that the Monk.

Snake Oil Pine and Cigar Hockey have no chance and Morrisson...Jesus No. The only other one..the one that Abbott had Minchin help screw over, is Malcolm Turnbull. I genuinely felt sorry for the poor basta%rd when he lost the leadership by 1 point. God he must have been shell shocked loosing to Abbott - knowing what he was like before the rest of the populace truly saw what he knew.

Hope either Julie or Malcolm take the helm and repair the damage these muppets have done.

I think from this point Abbott is a "dead man walking".
It's now a question of who and when.
Turnbull strikes me as a 'lazy' politician....not necessarily in terms of his work ethic in his portfolio but in the political sense... i.e. in terms of working hard enough to gain the leadership and then keeping it.

Bishop is the flavour of the month and has performed well...but under the scrutiny of a being a potential PM it will be interesting to see if she stays strong or a few cracks start to appear.

Certainly no fan of Abbott... I also have no idea wtf he was thinking.
The real question is can they get him to stand aside ?
I don't think they can afford to knife him after the Rudd/gillard debacle.

I think questions have to be asked about the competence of the Prime Minister's office and his advisors as well.

While it may be tempting to surround yourself with similar thinking anachronistic reactionaries, it's clearly not working 

Quote from: DJC – on January 28, 2015, 08:54:52 am

I think questions have to be asked about the competence of the Prime Minister's office and his advisors as well.

While it may be tempting to surround yourself with similar thinking anachronistic reactionaries, it's clearly not working 

Even more important , questions have to be asked about the PM himself !!!!