Carlton Supporters Club

@Raydan

You bring up an interesting point. Last year, we had absolutely zero idea when a player was pushed back. Our only option was to man him up. Any other tactic resulted in is capitulating.

It doesn't sound like we've revealed anything in the preseason around this but I hope Mick has some ideas. We'll be lucky to finish out of the bottom 6 without a second option.

Cripps is doing what Bell should be doing.
Bell is doing what we'd be happy with Cripps doing.

Quote from: kruddler – on March 23, 2015, 05:36:33 pm

Cripps is doing what Bell should be doing.
Bell is doing what we'd be happy with Cripps doing.

In fairness to Bell, he played soccer until 12 and apparently only played Aussie Rules intermittently until he was 17.

Are we running a football club? or a football clinic?

Wasn't disheartened by what I saw.

The comparison between the forward lines was orange and lemons. Hawkins is the best power forward in the game and Clarke was handy there too, but we didn't drop anyone back, which we would of in a normal game. Our forwards are still finding their feet and had Geelong defenders dropping back all game long, that's what Geelong does. It's interesting, there was a bought in this season to prevent blocking in a marking contest which I reckon I saw Geelong defenders do every second or third time and no penalty, and we got pinged for it twice.

Selwood might be a gun player, but I think he's a git of a bloke. Sook, sniper and ducker. I loved how one of our players got him high (Juddy?) and thought oh well let's make it a good one and poor little hard done by Selwood sooked it up.

Jaksch is only going to get better with playing time, he has very good closing speed, and shows promise by foot, couple of clangers though. Doesn't seem rushed out there either.

Cripps was everywhere, I was surprised by his lack of clearances stats though he would of been in the teens. Tough and strong, great vision and great hands, shanked a kick for goal but a great game.

Jones looked promising against an elite backline, has a way to go but might do well.

I wish Watson would be more consistent, his last quarter he looked lively but before that no much. He needs to be played higher up the field, starting him in the goals square is not his bag.

Boekhurst still looks like a deer in headlights, did some nice runs early in the game, but no where near as fast as I thought he was.

Smith very promising, has grunt and attitude. Polish up his skills and we have a winner.

I shuddered a bit when I saw Byrne out there again this  week, but was made to review my opinion of him, ran to good spots kicked well and defended well.

Bell I though he was better this week. Still tries to take opponents on and gets caught out, but his play around 50 was much better, twice he lowered his eyes and kicked a weighted kick to the forwards, when last season he would of looked for the 55m goal. Is improving his ground ball pick ups and team play, laying several blocks rather than running next to them expecting a handball.

Murphy timid and rusty. Thomas frustrated and rusty.

Henderson should be our CHB, end of story. He drops too many marks when he has position up forward and gets spoiled too easily on the lead. I think EB said he was almost AA CHB, I say keep him there get AA status, cause he won't get near AA CHF. When Lachie played that season at CHB and he had the ball I felt confident we were keeping it with the next kick and the dummy kicks and step arounds were almost poetry.

Forward line needs a small or two, it was only a couple of seasons ago where it was Betts, Garlett, Yarran and Armfield all zipping around the forward 50, now it's Menzel who is more of a medium marking and roving forward than a crumber.

I asked my Geelong workmate if he was happy with the game, he said they just cruised. I told him to watch the game again as they were still going hard with 5 mins to play, then pointed out a few things and said considering Geelong had a full strength side and we were missing some he should be concerned by a 3 goals win when it should have been closer to 8. He said we weren't missing that many so I reeled off, Gibbs, Yarran, Walker, Simpson, Casboult, Kreuzer/Warnock, he became quite after that.

Not a bad position to be in with round 1 on the way, underdogs but against Richmond who knows. We definitely have a bit more depth coming through. Might not be there yet but it's coming.

[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judds future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judds future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 23, 2015, 10:01:02 pm

[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judds future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

With due respect EB, I strongly disagree. Judd has shown himself to be such a force in his twilight years that we should exploit opposition efforts focused on Judd and inject youth to capitalize on this disadvantage.

Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on March 24, 2015, 12:28:22 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 23, 2015, 10:01:02 pm

[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judds future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

With due respect EB, I strongly disagree. Judd has shown himself to be such a force in his twilight years that we should exploit opposition efforts focused on Judd and inject youth to capitalize on this disadvantage.

If our young blokes can't pick up the torch while guys like Judd and Murphy are getting the attention of the opposition, how are they going to do it when Judd is gone?
They need to stand up now, and take advantage of the fact that they have a superstar in the team to show them how it is done. If they can't do it now, then they need to go.

Quote from: Juddkreuzer – on March 24, 2015, 12:28:22 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on March 23, 2015, 10:01:02 pm

[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judds future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

With due respect EB, I strongly disagree. Judd has shown himself to be such a force in his twilight years that we should exploit opposition efforts focused on Judd and inject youth to capitalize on this disadvantage.

If our young blokes can't pick up the torch while guys like Judd and Murphy are getting the attention of the opposition, how are they going to do it when Judd is gone?
They need to stand up now, and take advantage of the fact that they have a superstar in the team to show them how it is done. If they can't do it now, then they need to go.