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Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #135 –
Quote from: MosquitoFleet on
Clear the board of former sticks swan supporters
keep trigger and the judge

The president must go too he's been a part of it, and who knows whose tentacles are wrapped around him

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #136 –
Quote from: Amers on
Our defense last night was totally unacceptable. I saw some of the most basic fundamentals not being done or followed on multiple occasions.

Either the coaches don't have a clue, or the players simply don't listen and/or obey.

Not good enough !!

Jones had a go in the 1st qtr, but needs a tank, he is not AFL standard, I'd rather play Watson.

I like Armfield, he plays with more heart, than most. His speed is useful.

I like Ellard, but he is not an AFL standard footballer, we desperately need a better quality small forward in this years draft.

I thought Rowe did as good as could be expected against Cloke. Even on days when he is beaten, at least you know that Rowe will always give you 100% effort.

We need about 4 more Cripps and Dochertys out there playing, they are 2 of only too few who go out and play with any pride or passion.

Wood is a better 2nd ruck than Casboult.

I really can't tell if it's poor coaching, or a lack of respect and coachability on the players behalf, but there is something terribly wrong down at Carlton and until the president and board get it all sorted out, the future is looking pretty bleak for the Navy Blues.

Replace one guy without a tank with one who lacks a tank and any acceleration?

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #137 –
Quote from: Lods on
The president must go too he's been a part of it, and who knows whose tentacles are wrapped around him

thats a good point and ideally everyone should go, but I know it sounds inconsistent but from what I see the judge is a 20 year carltonian.. unlike the blow ins that were parachuted on the board...he is the real deal from what I see. that said if there is a new better person that puts his hand up,,,they all go...

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #138 –
One thing is sure and certain we haven't got a forward's bootlace.
If you cant kick goals you don't win football games. :(

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #139 –
Quote from: Lods on
One thing is sure and certain we haven't got a forward's bootlace.
If you cant kick goals you don't win football games. :(

This was one of my biggest concerns during the off season.

I was hoping we could do a poor man's version of what the Pies did last night - having multiple goal kickers, many of whom are not specialist forwards. Has not panned out thus far.

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #140 –
Quote from: Lods on
One thing is sure and certain we haven't got a forward's bootlace.
If you cant kick goals you don't win football games. :(


Hey we have Ellard  :))

Is there any other team in the last 20 years that constantly bomb the ball to 175cm tagging mids as consistently as we have.

Was at the game last night. Local amateur comps play smarter then us. Just grab the ball and kick it towards our end where a midget is waiting to mark it against 2 defenders.    

Dumbest football club I've ever seen.

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #141 –
we've built a culture of finely manicured catwalk modeling metrosexuals
instead of brutal diehards that do not wilt in the face of adversity.
these leaders have no character

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #143 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on
On this year's form they've clearly regressed.

A week ago Murphy won the medal for BOG and he was easily our best last night, Gibbs had a bad one last night but these things happen and he doesn't have many.
Your sack Malthouse agenda is obvious PI2C but some of your posts are a bit over the edge.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #144 –
You can't blame the forwards when we bomb the ball to two on one or chip it short and never kick into space.  Our guys wouldn't even know the term the Fat side!!

Rowe did the job on Cloke but every kick he had went to a big pack and he took 30 seconds to make the same decision over and over giving them time to set up. It was horrible.

Gibbs didn't run hard pointed his finger at everyone else and as usual never put his body on the line.

And you can't have Curnow , Whiley , Ellard , Armfield  as your small forwards/midfield depth.  They are just not up to this level.

Long time lurker few time poster !!

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #145 –
As a combined effort that was the worst coaching exhibition and worst playing exhibition imaginable. We've played our best footy under MM when we've had a positive game plan, number more forward of the ball hence allow some run deep into the 50. like late last year. That way we have options, with run we create space meaning skills are better. With more numbers forward we can apply alot more pressure in our forward 50. I know it was St.Kilda last week but we did that and duly got the rewards with run and pressure in our forward 50.

I still remember the last qtr, Murphy got the ball and running, looking up from the half back flank and actually saw nothing in front of him. Like WTF is that game plan. It's not an excuse, and never should be, but no wonder players get demoralised and give up. Good coaches coach to the players strengths.

Ratten did well at Carlton because he had a game plan that played to our strengths, even with an average list. There were flaws in it but at least the players were committed, happy with it and payed for each other. That's always the start.

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Reply #146 –
Quote from: shawny on

Hey we have Ellard  :))

Is there any other team in the last 20 years that constantly bomb the ball to 175cm tagging mids as consistently as we have.

Was at the game last night. Local amateur comps play smarter then us. Just grab the ball and kick it towards our end where a midget is waiting to mark it against 2 defenders.    

Dumbest football club I've ever seen.

That's the problem, too much of a negative game plan, too many blokes behind the ball, no-one to collect a handpass in the middle and run forward, no-one to kick to so without numbers you're left with bombing and hoping for the best.

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #147 –
Quote from: blue4life on
A week ago Murphy won the medal for BOG and he was easily our best last night, Gibbs had a bad one last night but these things happen and he doesn't have many.
Your sack Malthouse agenda is obvious PI2C but some of your posts are a bit over the edge.

Meh, the fact that you feel the need to throw in a cheap shot highlights the weakness of your argument. All that coming from the guy that thinks we should've kept Pagan. Go figure.

Murphy was an MVP under Ratten. He's so far from that now it's just not funny. Gibbs has played collectively the worst three games of his career.
Ignorance is bliss.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS!
 

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #148 –
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on
Meh, the fact that you feel the need to throw in a cheap shot highlights the weakness of your argument. All that coming from the guy that thinks we should've kept Pagan. Go figure.

Murphy was an MVP under Ratten. He's so far from that now it's just not funny. Gibbs has played collectively the worst three games of his career.

No cheap shot mate, you've made no secret of your wish to see Malthouse gone and it colours your judgement, if you can't see it it's not my problem.
Sacking Pagan was the biggest mistake we've made in the last decade, he was a proven coach who was proven as a developer of young players with the ability to build a team from the ground up.
He took over a club that was broke with a shot list then was handed a two year ban from the first two rounds of the draft, the results he achieved in 2004 under those circumstances were a minor miracle.
But football supporters are fickle and we had a weak kneed board, so rather than tough it out we sacked him and put a bloke in his place with almost zero experience to keep the members happy, he was the man who was going to bring back the Carlton swagger if my memory serves me correctly.
The swagger never arrived and five years of lacklustre results later we sacked him to employ the Messiah, and if history is any guide we'll cave in again and sack the Messiah as well, rinse and repeat.
We just don't have the cojones to stick it out, we're always chasing the miracle fix and harking back to the old days when we could buy flags, but those days are long gone and they won't be back.
Don't worry about who the coach is, the club and its supporters need to grow a pair and see things through for a change, that or accept the fact that we'll never be a power again.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)

Reply #149 –
I think some posters have gone early on Whiley. I'm prepared to give the kid a bit more time.