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Reply #3930 –
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Quote from: shawny – on


Senile Joe as commander in chief…. you serious!

The guy cant structure a sentence that makes any sense, talks absolute nonsense that not even the most rusted on left winger understands and you think he has control over a nuke button!

The Dems are a joke but thats stupidity on a level that is even beyond them.

Key words in this, Shawny, are 'rusted-on.' As the words suggest, 'rusted on', sounds pretty unhealthy. And it doesn't matter if you're a 'rusted on' leftie or rightie or middlie or uppie or downie.

Sorry, squire, but you do come across as a 'rusted on' trumpie, with a 'rusted on' disdain for anything other.

With 'rusted on' comes the death of detachment, clear thinking and objectivity - things required for the human brain to engage properly. As Einstein once noted (paraphrased) when we march, without question, rank and file to any political ideology we only need our brain stem ...to eat, breath, obey and walk.

I don't even think you have to be 'rusted on'
If you have a leaning for one side you tend to give more weight to the positive things they say and do and you overlook any weaknesses in their make-up.
That increases and decreases the more your political views move from a centrist position.

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Reply #3931 –
A couple of interesting snippets from coverage of the US elections:

Francis Leach and his partner, Lynne Haultain, both former Melbourne radio personalities, are working as volunteers at a US polling station.

The National Guard units have apparently been mobilised and sent to Washington DC.  Cafes and other businesses are closed and boarded up.  Hopefully, neither the National Guard or the business security will be necessary.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3932 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
too late for it to make a real difference I reckon. 

The aftermath might be amusing if Trump loses.
It just shows how much influence these billionaire types can have though, if they can turn a feature like this on or off at will. Can you imagine it if Australia Post suddenly stated it's not going to deliver a particular parties political pamphlets? Yet Musk is free to do so at will!

Keep in mind, in making the nefarious types easier to trace it works both ways, but I suppose people who post rational messages have little to fear.

There is some speculation it's designed to drive disgruntled "X" users towards Trump's Truth Social platform, just another echo chamber for disconnected entities.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3933 –
Quote from: Lods – on
I don't even think you have to be 'rusted on'
If you have a leaning for one side you tend to give more weight to the positive things they say and do and you overlook any weaknesses in their make-up.
That increases and decreases the more your political views move from a centrist position.

I'm not sure whether political leanings are all that relevant.  Folk from all over the political spectrum are genuinely concerned about the consequences of Aurangzeb returning to office.  I don't think there would be anywhere near that concern if Nikki Haley was the GOP candidate.  I certainly wouldn't be paying much attention to a Harris-Haley contest.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3934 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Quote from: Lods – on
I don't even think you have to be 'rusted on'
If you have a leaning for one side you tend to give more weight to the positive things they say and do and you overlook any weaknesses in their make-up.
That increases and decreases the more your political views move from a centrist position.

I'm not sure whether political leanings are all that relevant.  Folk from all over the political spectrum are genuinely concerned about the consequences of Aurangzeb returning to office.  I don't think there would be anywhere near that concern if Nikki Haley was the GOP candidate.  I certainly wouldn't be paying much attention to a Harris-Haley contest.

I'm not sure...
Is that a perception based on your own political views and based on the folks you have most contact with.
We tend to mix with like minded folk.
I have some friends who think Trump is the best thing since sliced bread and others who think he's the devil himself...and it usually breaks on Australian political preferences.

The fact that it's probably going to be around a 50-50 split in the USA reflects that's the case with the American voter.

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Reply #3935 –
Quote from: Lods – on

I'm not sure...
Is that a perception based on your own political views and based on the folks you have most contact with.
We tend to mix with like minded folk.
I have some friends who think Trump is the best thing since sliced bread and others who think he's the devil himself...and it usually breaks on Australian political preferences.

The fact that it's probably going to be around a 50-50 split in the USA reflects that's the case with the American voter.

My oldest and closest mate just sent me a selfie … wearing a MAGA hat and he’s a committed ALP voter.  Several of my US buddies are MAGA or MAGA inclined.  My Texas cousins are anti-MAGA.

My perception is largely based on the “rusted on” Republicans and non-aligned and non-voters who have announced their intention to vote for Harris this time, as well as the quite broad cross-section of our population, as sampled by ABC radio, who call in to express their fears about the US election outcome.

As I said above, while I’m interested in the US election process, I have only really been concerned about the outcome since the 45th POTUS began his campaign.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3936 –
I suspect in broad terms, there are two categories of anti Trumpers : one, the person-in-the-street, who are against him for all the reasons that have been discussed several times over, and the other group represent the Republican elite, like the Cheneys, Pence, Romney and others, who are against him because he's rash and impulsive and can't be trusted to follow orders and stick to the script.

Trump is what a human looks like and acts like when they have no super ego, or have one and choose to ignore it. Acting out our frustrations and base impulses free of any restraint is something we must all resist. He gives a license for people to act ugly, and such a license should never be bestowed by someone who in psychological terms, is not fully human.

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Reply #3937 –
You can't trust the media reports, at one stage the media were all reporting the same set of individual counts but claiming vastly different state counts. One media outlet had Harris 27 / Trump 99, then 15 minutes later it was Harris 35 / Trump 95 with the counts barely changed.

It's a huge problem for democracy in general at the moment, because the reporting sources cannot be trusted. It's bad enough here where there is a unified bureaucratic entity in charge, over in the US it is a bag full of cats.

Some states apparently call the result and close the polls early, others extend the opening to draw in more voters, the process seems to be as rubbery as it could possibly be!

In the time it took me to write this post the vote on one source has become Harris 71 / Trump 101, just 5 minutes, News Ltd report nearly the same count numbers but claim Harris 27 / Trump 105. They seem to have the same totals, with the same source it would be impossible for the outcome to be so vastly different.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3938 –
Much too early to call.
Results are changing by the minute depending on counties reporting, and even those are changing.

At the moment it looks pretty much that Red states are staying red, Blue states are staying Blue.

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Reply #3939 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Much too early to call.
Results are changing by the minute depending on counties reporting, and even those are changing.

At the moment it looks pretty much that Red states are staying red, Blue states are staying Blue.

I suspect that is the most likely outcome.

Interestingly, a MAGA polling station judge said on the wireless this morning that the voter numbers were significantly higher than they were at the last election ... but they were still only in the 100s.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3940 –
Neither candidate inspires much confidence or hope for the man in the street, there has to be better candidates somewhere on the horizon who can actually be effective leaders. No matter who wins this time its a backward step for the rest of the world imho.

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Reply #3941 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Neither candidate inspires much confidence or hope for the man in the street, there has to be better candidates somewhere on the horizon who can actually be effective leaders. No matter who wins this time its a backward step for the rest of the world imho.

You’d like to think that there are better candidates EB.  In fact you’d want to hope that there are. 

The system doesn’t really attract or inspire high achievers with the likes of Murdoch, Musk and party hacks setting the agenda. 
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #3942 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Neither candidate inspires much confidence or hope for the man in the street, there has to be better candidates somewhere on the horizon who can actually be effective leaders. No matter who wins this time its a backward step for the rest of the world imho.
Yes undoubtedly.

But there is a point of difference here, in that Trump winning by spewing vitriol sets the tone for future democratic elections around the globe, policy statements will evaporate and the garbage will consume the available void. Xi and Putin must be laughing their head off because it's clearly a win for fascism. I've worked in and out of China for decades, and the entity that most aligns with Trump's vitriol is the CCP, those ministers and bureaucrats that stand up and lecture the globe about racist foreign policies, sound familiar? They are the handmaids of Xi, which always makes me laugh when I hear Trump bang on about placing tariffs on China, because Trump is Xi in a pink pig suit!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #3943 –
It will be interesting to see how financial markets respond to a Trump win if the current trends continue.
Should have bought those shares. ::)