Carlton Supporters Club

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In our losing Streak:

Saints - Hickey 2 Goals, in Bests
GWS - Mumford - 2nd BOG
Collingwood - Grundy 2 goals, Second BOG
Adelaide - Jacobs 3 goals, in Bests
Hawks - Ceglar 2 goals, McEvoy 1
Saints x 2 - Hickey 1 goal
Brisbane - Archie Smith, first ever goal.

Lets not froget what Tippet and Sinclair did in round 2 (7 goals) and Goldy did.

We get smashed in the Ruck every week, time to cut Krueze loose and see what Phillips can do as the Number 1.

Which of the serious finals contenders run with only one genuine ruck option?

It seems there are very few examples that support your argument, just look at last weekend!

Hawthorn - McEvoy/Ceglar
Sydney - Nankervis/Naismith
Adelaide - O'Brien/Jenkins
Geelong - Stanley/Smith + Biclavs
GWS - Mumford/Lobb + Paton
WC - Naitanui/Lycett
Bulldogs - Roughead/Boyd
North - Goldstein/Daw

Sides are different and you select them to your strength but because it's the done thing to pick two.

Anyway, Daw only plays when Waite is out. Boyd is a key forward, didn't pay 1 miillion a year to ruck, Jenkins is mostly a key forward. Sydney will play Tippett when he's back, Paton will always offer something good as a forward. Hawthorn are key positionless due to illness and injury but last year had Hale, who was a good as a key forward as he was a ruck. Using your names there has thoroughly convinced me we use one ruckman and Casboult, same as  those sides above. Thank you for confirming what I think.

2 rucks is ok if they are mobile and do alot around the ground, goddamn friggen useless if they do nothing as you're one man down the whole game. At Carlton, who in their right mind would play two rucks when you can pick another runner and increase your run around the ground. Anyone who knows anything at all about football Casboult can take up the slack as he has done before for a few years pretty well, and where he plays some of his best footy in that dual role. Happy to lose a few tapouts for better round the ground output. Many sides win the clearances against losing rucks.

What would you prefer, two lumbering useless ruckmen or one and an extra runner? By having one you'll increase both the output of Kreuzer, Casboult as well as giving us good run with the extra midfielder. What do you think? You couldn't possibly say two useless lumbering ruckman, if you do, well......

You keep pushing that Casboult bit in bold but it's bogus. It has delivered us massive disappointments time and time again, we rob our only useful contested mark inside F50 to have him ruck poorly around the ground. It's never worked ever because as a ruck Casboult has almost no idea other than jump and hit. He gets out-bodied by the small and medium sized players, and has zero second effort when the ball hits the ground.

All those others in bold are ruckmen turned forwards, and Tippett when in the team has played ruck all year not forward, and he does so in combination with Sinclair. Tippett hasn't played as a forward once this year, and never as a solo ruck!

In terms of the Dawks last year, McEvoy and Hale effectively divided ruck duties right down the middle. I agree they are dead lucky they had Hale, because without him they would have been cooked. But Hale was clearly the best ruck forward in the competition last season, better than Boyd, better than Patton, perhaps only Cameron is his equal, but rightly so GWS don't ruck Cameron anymore.

If you want to fix the forward line, find a better forward option. If you want to fix the midfield division fix the midfielders. Don't shoot yourself in the foot in the ruck hoping to cover for some other deficiency, it just doesn't work.

As for Casboult, what use is a 200cm x 100kg clunking target who can only deliver when he's played as the support act! We need a bloke who can take the top job, not play as the second banana! FFS, Liam Jones takes the heat off him and he performs, holy cow that is an indictment!

You keep pushing that Casboult bit in bold but it's bogus. It has delivered us massive disappointments time and time again, we rob our only useful contested mark inside F50 to have him ruck poorly around the ground. It's never worked ever because as a ruck Casboult has almost no idea other than jump and hit. He gets out-bodied by the small and medium sized players, and has zero second effort when the ball hits the ground.

All those others in bold are ruckmen turned forwards, and Tippett when in the team has played ruck all year not forward, and he does so in combination with Sinclair. Tippett hasn't played as a forward once this year, and never as a solo ruck!

In terms of the Dawks last year, McEvoy and Hale effectively divided ruck duties right down the middle. I agree they are dead lucky they had Hale, because without him they would have been cooked. But Hale was clearly the best ruck forward in the competition last season, better than Boyd, better than Patton, perhaps only Cameron is his equal, but rightly so GWS don't ruck Cameron anymore.

If you want to fix the forward line, find a better forward option. If you want to fix the midfield division fix the midfielders. Don't shoot yourself in the foot in the ruck hoping to cover for some other deficiency, it just doesn't work.

As for Casboult, what use is a 200cm x 100kg clunking target who can only deliver when he's played as the support act! We need a bloke who can take the top job, not play as the second banana! FFS, Liam Jones takes the heat off him and he performs, holy cow that is an indictment!

Why not have Krueze FF for the game and have Phillips No. 1 ruck and use the Bolt to pinch hit in the ruck?
Just saying....

Just ruck Kreuzer most of the day, help from Casboult, and pick and pick an extra runner. Kreuzer is a dreadful key forward.

At worst, the Kreuzer-Phillips combination has broken even with opposition ruck combinations with the exception of hitting the scoreboard when resting forward.  There's no reason to change our ruck combination but we do need to find a way to get more value from them when resting.

Casboult's days as back-up ruckman ended with his knee injury - for this season at least.