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Reply #240 –
Quote from: shadesy – on
Sandi will ALWAYS win Hitouts. We won the clearance count by 1.

How effective were his hitouts vs our clearances?.....a lot of our clearances end up nowhere....
Kruezer should get his chance to dominate vs ex Swan Namkervis and the ageing Maric when we play the Tigers...we will have to do better
than one clearance advantage though...

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Reply #241 –
Trying to find a positive EB. Thought Kreuzer looked the best player for large periods. Was happy with what I saw.
"We are a club in a hurry"

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Reply #242 –
Quote from: sydneybluesfan – on
Murphy hasn't been influential because he isn't kicking the ball much. On the weekend he has 17 hb/10 kicks, with only 63% DE. A lot of those handballs are short to guys under pressure, or he turned the ball over.

Given how poor the general skills are, especially the kicking of Kerridge and Curnow, we really need Murphy [and Gibbs] kicking the ball more often and spotting up targets upfield and being creative. He racks up decent numbers, but like Gibbs, often has very limited impact on the game IMO.

Kruz tried his guts out, had 17 possessions and laid 7 tackles [game high]. He is running into some good form, and the only blight on his game was he also threw the ball onto his boot a few times and turned it over. I would love to see him have a big year, because if he plays well we are a much harder side to beat.

Agreed. Kreuz is one of the very few senior guys who shows the kind of intensity and inspiration needed. OK he makes a mistake here and there, but if everyone put in like him we'd be in a much better place.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #243 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Agreed. Kreuz is one of the very few senior guys who shows the kind of intensity and inspiration needed. OK he makes a mistake here and there, but if everyone put in like him we'd be in a much better place.
Couldn't agree more - he always gives a contest and asserts a physical presence that is sorely lacking. The fact that he topped the tackles is a great general indicator of endeavour and effort, and we desperately need Gibbs, Murph and Thomas to display the same kind of intensity. It's been sorely missing so far, but hopefully they can flick the switch in 10 days time........ Here's hoping!!

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Reply #244 –
Quote from: shadesy – on
Trying to find a positive EB. Thought Kreuzer looked the best player for large periods. Was happy with what I saw.

Shadesy...Pickett, Marchbank were my positives and I thought Weitering showed plenty up forward..I wasnt unhappy with Kruezers game and 17 possies is a good effort ..I just thought
Sandilands especially in the 1st half was a big factor....reckon the 3rd man up rule hurt us a bit too, Cripps might have stolen a few boundary throw ins if Kruezer was able to block
out the big bloke..

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Reply #245 –
I rate Marchbank, but has made some basic howling errors across the preseason.
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Reply #246 –
Quote from: sydneybluesfan – on
Murphy hasn't been influential because he isn't kicking the ball much. On the weekend he has 17 hb/10 kicks, with only 63% DE. A lot of those handballs are short to guys under pressure, or he turned the ball over.



Unfortunately, this seems to be accurate.

It appears to be a facet of the game plan this year, i.e. lots of short quick hand passes to try and get the ball to a player under less pressure. Laudable idea if players have the skill and anticipation to carry it off; laughable otherwise.

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Reply #247 –
I'll ask the question - if Weitering plays forward this year (and beyond) what happens to Charlie Curnow?

Can we have a forward line of Casboult, Weitering and Curnow in 2017 and expect results? Big ask of a couple of 19-20 olds but I guess pressure makes diamonds.

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Reply #248 –
Quote from: Barbs – on
I'll ask the question - if Weitering plays forward this year (and beyond) what happens to Charlie Curnow?

Can we have a forward line of Casboult, Weitering and Curnow in 2017 and expect results? Big ask of a couple of 19-20 olds but I guess pressure makes diamonds.

Easy fixed.

Get rid of casboult. ;)

He is not the future. Weitering and Curnowfides are.

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Reply #249 –
Quote from: Pratty – on
Yep agree elwood.

Think Weitering, Pickett, Jack Silvagni, Charlie Curnow, Wright and Casboult are a good start in the forward line.

Harry McKay and Pat Kerr in time also we hope. You could add other crumbers in SPS, Lebois and Sumner too. Think young Lebois, with Pickett, could make for a brilliant tandem.

Casboult and Kreuzer swpping tall forward/ruck gives us a big monster up forward also.

I think Marchbank, and Plowman too, are more than capable up forward. Rowe is another.

Sound analyses as usual EB and Pratty, but I have a couple of qualifications.  If Rowe plays forward it should be very occasionally and he must be instructed to take the shot every time he gets the ball inside 50.  He is a good kick for goal but not so good at hitting a target.  I would only play Plowman forward if there was a match up that suited.  Zach Tuohy would one such match up with Plowman having the ability to stop Tuohy's run and exploit his loose checking.
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Reply #250 –
Quote from: RiverRat – on
Unfortunately, this seems to be accurate.

It appears to be a facet of the game plan this year, i.e. lots of short quick hand passes to try and get the ball to a player under less pressure. Laudable idea if players have the skill and anticipation to carry it off; laughable otherwise.
RR - It's the Bulldog model and it's all the rage - but it is high risk, high return. The problem I see is if you use this method for it to work well you need to outnumber the opposition at the contest, and be able to spread hard to create the free man to give the handball too who can then kick it. You also need good close in skills, and good decision making and vision about who to give the ball too.

We lack a lot of those skill fundamentals, and even Murphy and Gibbs are not great at it as mentioned above. And hand balling to Cripps, Curnow or Kerridge [just to name a few] for them to kick it is a recipe for a turnover.

But no matter what your game style is, when you have as many poorly skilled players and players with poor decision making as we do you are going to struggle big time.

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Reply #251 –
It's been a very uninspiring pre-season for me this year. But still a few positives.

LeBois, what a 1st kick, in your AFL debut!! Not much else to go on, but he did provide that 1 little bit of excitement.

No SPS yet, but Fisher, Polson and Macreadie all showed some green shoots, with the chances they were given.

Marchbank and Pickett are both showing that they will add something to our best 22.

Palmer and Smedts have not done a lot to excite, yet, but for me, I'm just happy see Smedts string 3 games togather. I think he has a lot of upside and potential, that can come to the fore, if he can get some continuity into his games played.

2 wins for the NB's in their 1st two praccy matches is also a promising sign IMO, Sheehan, playing well in these games is also pleasing.

I'm coming down to see us in round 1 against the Tiges, I don't really know what to expect, so all I am really hoping for will be 120 minutes of effort, and see where that gets us!
Mens sana in corpore sano - A healthy mind in a healthy body.

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Reply #252 –
Quote from: Amers – on
It's been a very uninspiring pre-season for me this year. But still a few positives.

LeBois, what a 1st kick, in your AFL debut!! Not much else to go on, but he did provide that 1 little bit of excitement.

No SPS yet, but Fisher, Polson and Macreadie all showed some green shoots, with the chances they were given.

Marchbank and Pickett are both showing that they will add something to our best 22.

Palmer and Smedts have not done a lot to excite, yet, but for me, I'm just happy see Smedts string 3 games togather. I think he has a lot of upside and potential, that can come to the fore, if he can get some continuity into his games played.

2 wins for the NB's in their 1st two praccy matches is also a promising sign IMO, Sheehan, playing well in these games is also pleasing.

I'm coming down to see us in round 1 against the Tiges, I don't really know what to expect, so all I am really hoping for will be 120 minutes of effort, and see where that gets us!

A bit of reason amongst all the naysayers....cheers Amers.

My bottom line - we'll do a lot better than our 2016 effort.

Need to beat the Tigers and watch the boys' confidence soar!

If Gibbs and Murphy can replicate Cripps' intensity Rd 1 and on, we'll scare a lot of teams....

Kerridge? Backwards at a rate of knots? Maybe needs time in the 2s?

Curnow (Ed?) - i thought his kicking came on heaps last year.....perhaps it's the pressure or perceived pressure the players are under....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

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Reply #253 –
I note the Cats are trialling Harry T. up forward.....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

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Reply #254 –
Quote from: flyboy77 – on
I note the Cats are trialling Harry T. up forward.....

People will make analogies to Weitering, but there is a big difference between swinging a tenth year player around and a kid in his 2nd year.

Taylor knows the game, can switch back to his default defence at the flick of a switch like he never missed a beat.

Despite just how good Jacob Weitering is, he is just a kid learning the ropes. Let Weitering learn the ropes, and in two or three years he'll be another Harry Taylor, Jarryd Roughead or maybe even a Stephen Silvagni.
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