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Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #75 –
Quote from: blue4life – on
Yet at one stage Ratten had him running around in the VFL and Darren Pfeiffer in the seniors, go figure.
When it got to the ridiculous stage after a couple of 100 point thrashings good old Ratts came to his senses, then lost them again when he played Hoops as sub in his 200th game.
Stevo may have been a Ratten fan but I sure wasnt, great player but a disaster as a coach.

LOL!!!! He took us from the bottom to finals in two seasons with a pretty average side and were there the next two years. You not notice the 5 years before and the 3 years after.

Did we lose by 100pts under Ratts? Don't think so. You need to go back to the dill coaching us before for that.

Didn't want to go back to Ratts etc.. but B4L this will not go down as your best post. Wish we were this disastrous now...lol.

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #76 –
Quote from: laj – on
LOL!!!! He took us from the bottom to finals in two seasons with a pretty average side and were there the next two years. You not notice the 5 years before and the 3 years after.

Did we lose by 100pts under Ratts? Don't think so. You need to go back to the dill coaching us before for that.

Didn't want to go back to Ratts etc.. but B4L this will not go down as your best post. Wish we were this disastrous now...lol.

It's been done to death already Laj, we'd best leave it at that.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #77 –
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
No free kick?  In fact, they got a goal from it!!

Similarly, JSelwood kicked in danger (fresh air) just missing Simo's head. Simo as usual with his head over the ball. No free. Goal to cats >:(

Anyway, when does the "protect the head" come into decisions??
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #78 –
Ratten's problem was he relied on the same pretenders who still let us down today. Never forget Marc Murphy's performance on the footy show after Ratten was sacked.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #79 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
Is that 3 injuries in 2 years for Dangerfield v Carlton?
Murphy, Judd and Kruezer.
Any chance we ever, ever, ever do anything about it?

Snap
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #80 –
Quote from: Milhanna13 – on
Just watching the replay and I can see a bit of the Scott arms out stretched whinging action creeping into Danger's game. As soon as he is touched he looks to the umpire - even during play!!  No commentator will ever call him on it though!!

Made me puke to have to listen to how "brave" Lonergan is when both he and Kruezer went down within a few seconds of eachother. It was almost like the commentators were thankful for a distraction so they wouldn't have to cast aspersions on Dangerfield's intent. Later in the quarter one of them expressed surprise that social media was buzzing about the tackle. Nice one Paddy - take out our prime mover. Nothing to see here though folks - it was only against Carlton.

On the other hand, love the way the cameras are now trained on Scott - the second worst coach in the AFL - who's becoming a parody of himself and a great role model for coaches of junior sides throughout the country.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #81 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
Ratten's problem was he relied on the same pretenders who still let us down today. Never forget Marc Murphy's performance on the footy show after Ratten was sacked.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0sEiCGImk

Yes? And? What the fck was he supposed to say and do?

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #82 –
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/patrick-dangerfield-says-his-tackle-of-matthew-kreuzer-was-fair-20170730-gxlkqu.html

Listen to the commentator - Ling I'd reckon - on about how Kreuzer "hurt himself".

Did Kreuzer even ever have the ball?

Certainly got held onto a long time after the ball had gone and he most certainly was unable to break his fall....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #84 –
Quote from: Micky0 – on
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0sEiCGImk

Yes? And? What the fck was he supposed to say and do?

Heath Scotland came out after Ratts was sacked and said the only thing that could be said - that the players had Ratts' blood on their hands and made his sacking so much easier for the board, who in all likelihood already had Mick in the bag.

Poor showing by Murph - looked like he didn't care.

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #85 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Heath Scotland came out after Ratts was sacked and said the only thing that could be said - that the players had Ratts' blood on their hands and made his sacking so much easier for the board, who in all likelihood already had Mick in the bag.

Poor showing by Murph - looked like he didn't care.

Agree...looked like he agreed with the decision to sack Ratten....at the time I probably agreed with Rattens sacking but looking back now given where we are his results were not too bad
given what he had to work with..
 

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #86 –
Ratten is a really good coach - this isnt hindsight stuff even Parkin was saying out of all coaches under his tutelage Ratten has probably got the best understanding of the game,

What screwed him over was Swann - Ratts wanted to go out and trade for tall forwards end of 2011 and Swann did not allow it and instead we draft Josh Bootsma and Sam Rowe

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #87 –
Was at the game last night and one thing i noticed was their direct hardness at the player when we had the ball.

I hate Selwood and Dangerfield with a passion but FMD you have to respect them. They go all game and they go hard when they don't have the ball. Selwood in particular runs like a madman direct at our blokes and his pressure is why we turn it over so often.

We tend to guard space and corral the opposition rather then commit and go straight at a player and tackle - and when we do go the amount of missed tackles drove me forking mad.

Gibbs has a interesting technique when the opposition has the ball - he tackles and then continues to softly hold the opposition player that just moved the ball on even if by a handball only 5 metres away rather then busting his arse running to the next contest. Its obvious why he does it.

I remember Simmo's 250th last year. Dying minutes Murphy, Gibbs and Simmo were sprinting from contest to contest to save that game.

So I guess if it matter enough to them they will put defensive pressure on.

It was clear last night it didn't matter. :-[  

Feel sorry for our young kids...almost will have to do it on their own to get us to improve.   

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #88 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Agree...looked like he agreed with the decision to sack Ratten....at the time I probably agreed with Rattens sacking but looking back now given where we are his results were not too bad
given what he had to work with..

Ah brother Elwood, just like Saul on the road to Damascus, you've seen the light. Now, some more proselytising on my part, followed by the conversion of mbb and kruddler, and then my work here is done.

Re: Rd 19: Post Game Conversations: Carlton vs Geelong

Reply #89 –
Quote from: JonHenry – on
Is that 3 injuries in 2 years for Dangerfield v Carlton?
Murphy, Judd and Kruezer.
Any chance we ever, ever, ever do anything about it?

Glad there are others who have noticed the same thing...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17