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Reply #105 –
Quote from: Phillipwh – on
Carlton did not perform well.
the Players were not up to it and the coach did not inspire the team.
Blame falls on everyone equally, from President to masseur.
Time to plan to do better !

Many things have to change if our club is going to change for the far better. We only ever make up the numbers in finals. That won't change if people are not moved along, and better candidates are in positions to better the club. Players coaching staff and all members of the board etc.
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Reply #106 –
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Just watched MM's post match presser - certainly left no doubt where we will be mainly focussed in the approaching trade/draft period. Mids, Mids and more Mids!


He spoke well......said we couldnt do anything in the trade period last year and he had to go with the players he had and reading between the lines he knew that wasnt going to be good enough and he called it a growth year.  Yep we need more mids for more rotations........he did say Chris Yarran did ok and I think he he safe from being traded.

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Reply #107 –
Our captain Murphy in an interview said "the was we lost last nights final was probably disappointing" ??

Probably ?? As is maybe yes, maybe no ?? Is he for real with a comment like that. How about stating all the players played like cr@p and let down all their supporters and members in the biggest way possible. Not enough intensity, intention and just a lazy effort by almost every player. No probably about it. Definitely. Definitely complete rubbish. Definitely, not probably. Give the captains role to Simpson.
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Reply #108 –
Simmo and Walker were by far our best. Tried hard all night and got more than a fair share of the pill. Judd on one leg was competitive. The rest were very ordinary. As far as Brock is concerned, he didnt look right. Would have been better to play Menzel. He at least would have found a mark or 3 up forward. 52 points down at 3/4 time says we have a lot to do. But strangely I think that what needs to be done will be done and we will advance next year. Unfortunately our top 6 finish will leave us playing the other top 6 finishers twice next year. A good challenge nonetheless.

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Reply #109 –
Wow never considered that. Still, Pies and Port aren't impossible challenges to do twice.
Ignorance is bliss.

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Reply #110 –
If we can't beat the better sides, we are probably wasting our time. The best way to improve is to play the better sides and learn from their weaknesses. It makes it harder fighting for ladder position, but we don't cut it with the best 4. Lets build a group that can start beating them and then we are a real chance.
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Reply #111 –
Pies and Tiges finished 8th and 7th so that makes all of the other Top 8 from 2013 will be played twice.

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Reply #112 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: cookie2 – on
Just watched MM's post match presser - certainly left no doubt where we will be mainly focussed in the approaching trade/draft period. Mids, Mids and more Mids!


He spoke well......said we couldnt do anything in the trade period last year and he had to go with the players he had and reading between the lines he knew that wasnt going to be good enough and he called it a growth year.  Yep we need more mids for more rotations........he did say Chris Yarran did ok and I think he he safe from being traded.

Yes EB1 I think I would draw that conclusion re. Yarran now. Conversely Eddie looks gorrn if he wants the kind of money being talked about.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #113 –
It's tough to play the other top 8 sides twice, but seriously, if you really want tog grow as a side, why not play the best.
At least we know if we make the finals with a draw like that that we have improved and we deserve to be there as genuine contenders.

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Reply #114 –
Quote from: Baggers2013 – on
All our weaknesses sure were on display in one game for all to see.

We cannot sustain... anything!

We cannot initiate sustained and ruthless attack without having our backs to the wall ...and we can't sustain that for more than 2 quarters.

We only shine against poor opposition, mediocre opposition having a bad day, or good opposition that lapses in concentration.

We cannot 'hunt' a top side. And if we're seriously hunted, we default to timidity and relying on Juddy and a couple of others to lift everyone else.

Last night an undermanned Fluffy Ducks met an undermanned Blues... and culture (ingrained heart & spirit + courage, discipline & leadership) won.

agree

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Reply #115 –
Quote from: Baggers2013 – on
All our weaknesses sure were on display in one game for all to see.

We cannot sustain... anything!

We cannot initiate sustained and ruthless attack without having our backs to the wall ...and we can't sustain that for more than 2 quarters.

We only shine against poor opposition, mediocre opposition having a bad day, or good opposition that lapses in concentration.

We cannot 'hunt' a top side. And if we're seriously hunted, we default to timidity and relying on Juddy and a couple of others to lift everyone else.

Last night an undermanned Fluffy Ducks met an undermanned Blues... and culture (ingrained heart & spirit + courage, discipline & leadership) won.

People will have their own views about teams like Sydney getting salary cap allowances etc. and using this as a reason for their current success. But last night's win had nothing to do with more money. I don't know if the "Bloods Culture" is real or urban myth. But they have something that glues them and lifts them, that's for sure. They won't beat Freo, but they are underdone.
 

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Reply #116 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Quote from: Baggers2013 – on
All our weaknesses sure were on display in one game for all to see.

We cannot sustain... anything!

We cannot initiate sustained and ruthless attack without having our backs to the wall ...and we can't sustain that for more than 2 quarters.

We only shine against poor opposition, mediocre opposition having a bad day, or good opposition that lapses in concentration.

We cannot 'hunt' a top side. And if we're seriously hunted, we default to timidity and relying on Juddy and a couple of others to lift everyone else.

Last night an undermanned Fluffy Ducks met an undermanned Blues... and culture (ingrained heart & spirit + courage, discipline & leadership) won.

People will have their own views about teams like Sydney getting salary cap allowances etc. and using this as a reason for their current success. But last night's win had nothing to do with more money. I don't know if the "Bloods Culture" is real or urban myth. But they have something that glues them and lifts them, that's for sure. They won't beat Freo, but they are underdone.
They will knock Freo off I reckon.
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Reply #117 –
Quote from: blue4life – on
Quote from: Brettie – on
I don't think it's unreasonable to think that about half-a-dozen of the blokes who took the field tonight have played their last game in navy blue.

I think that's fanciful to be honest.
Realistically a cub can recruit two or three good players in any one off season, on top of that they can draft or rookie three or four promising kids who may or may not make the grade, so any cuts to the list are limited to 6 or 8 players, any more and you just replace hacks with hacks.
There were at least four senior listed players not in last night's side, maybe as many as five or six, who will probably play very little senior football if they stay on the list, offhand I'd name Ellard, Joseph, Rowe, Mitchell, Davies and McCarthy as almost certain to be delisted, and Laidler and Hampson must be on shaky ground.
Most if not all of the players who played last night will still be on the list next season.

Probably right on nearly all counts. Rowe will play next year. We signed for the extra year during the season.

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Reply #118 –
Quote from: Baggers2013 – on
McInness' name has popped up for a bit for criticism. We should remember that he didn't do a pre-season owing to his his knee reco. Will be much better for a full pre-season. Shouldn't really have been out there this year... but there wasn't anyone else!! (Laids too slow; White injured).

And some of the same can be applied to Murph who also didn't have a full pre season.

Yes, exactly. He's been bagged, as a young bloke, for a bad few weeks despite coming of a knee reco. Has played some impressive footy at this club quite often and will again but as most supporters only have 10 sec memories this has been forgotten as usual.

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Reply #119 –
Quote from: laj – on
Quote from: Baggers2013 – on
McInness' name has popped up for a bit for criticism. We should remember that he didn't do a pre-season owing to his his knee reco. Will be much better for a full pre-season. Shouldn't really have been out there this year... but there wasn't anyone else!! (Laids too slow; White injured).

And some of the same can be applied to Murph who also didn't have a full pre season.

Yes, exactly. He's been bagged, as a young bloke, for a bad few weeks despite coming of a knee reco. Has played some impressive footy at this club quite often and will again but as most supporters only have 10 sec memories this has been forgotten as usual.


Lightly built and struggled vs the SWans hard bodies...disposal was also ordinary.....probably better long term than White but if we recruit  some bigger bodies defenders he will struggle to play seniors.
Doesnt have a real weapon in terms of pace or delivery and you need that in todays modern footy. I'd persist with him but he needs a good pre season in the gym and his skills improving ...