Carlton Supporters Club

I was surprised by Richmond's behind tally as the game went. They didn't seem to be missing easy goals and seemed to nail set shots. We managed 15.5 but there was about 4 shots that didn't score at all.

We rushed a few through.

He's not much older than Curnow (if he is at all).

Charlie Curnow is almost a year older than Weitering but that's not Weitering's problem.

We've taken one of the better intercept marks we've ever drafted, a player who showed us what he can do in his very first season, and forked him up for a short term attempt to cover for Casboult. Levi's poison is spreading, he is the gift that just keeps on giving.

It's a big test of Bolton and the coaches to see if they can get Weitering back to his best, and prevent the whole team from being sucked down the gurgler!

If we end up cooking Weitering and keeping SoJ the joint needs an enema because it's full of nepotistic sh1te! At the moment I cannot see why we are playing SoJ ahead of Kerr, O'Shea or McKay, although none of them show form worth persisting with, and they haven't performed at the level Weitering has shown he is capable of doing. FWIW, Macreadie and Williamson have shown more than SoJ, McKay or Kerr.

People are worried about certain players, I'm more worried because there is a stench of the old Carlton ways, and not the good ones!

If we could halve the number of cheap turnovers we would have wone that, even with 2 men down.... I haven't seen the whole game yet (tonight once kids are asleep) but I did see us cough the ball up a fair bit (Ed Curnow springs to mind).

I saw a stat from the Hun that said Tigres scored 14 goals from turnovers!!

Scores from turnovers has been an issue for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if all teams have high numbers for this stat against the Tigers. Their pressure on the ball carrier and intended receiver is pretty fierce. I think Bolton made a reference to this stat in his presser.

Scores from turnovers has been an issue for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if all teams have high numbers for this stat against the Tigers. Their pressure on the ball carrier and intended receiver is pretty fierce. I think Bolton made a reference to this stat in his presser.

Yes, the Nthmond game style and our new apparent game style depend on scores from turnovers, so they should be expected as part of the plan!

Is it good to watch? Really both teams looked ordinary last night, and I think an in-form Swans unit would have given them both fresh ones to crap out of!

Our problem wasn't creating turnovers it was execution once we got hold of the footy. I won't have it that the pressure is to blame, because we regularly won the ball then forked up during a chain of three or four handballs. The pressure was the same for both sides but I didn't see Nthmond missing targets by hand or foot.

We missed targets even when in the clear!

There were other very ordinary events, but there is one that stands out on the replay Watch in the last quarter you see us scramble out of defense to the nearside HBF where Mullett wins the ground ball and breaks free. He sets off past two or three of our own players who just stand-by and watch Nthmond players run past them and run Mullett down. The spud commentator, I think it was Ling, bags the hell out of Mullett for a lack of awareness and says nothing about Mullett's two or three team-mates who let the opposition run past them without even an attempt to shepherd. This sort of event happened several times, but that one in particular you can see the whole play in the field of view on the replay. it's a very ordinary look, and it's that lack of effort that shows we are not a unified team!

But 14 goals, that's a joke!

Yes, but having 18 players on the park all unified is hard to do, and it's why the Tigers are so good. A very good example of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts. Our skills haven't looked consistently sharp since the Ratten days.

I don't accept that PaulP, we are talking about things that are football basics, kids get dragged at U14 level for not doing this stuff and a AFL player on $400K dollars won't do it?

But 14 goals, that's a joke!

And yet, it continues to happen - why ?