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Pacy mids more important than pacy forwards....

And top quality, established mids at that.

We need 2. Fast!

We do have Fisher (finding his feet quickly), Lang (should be in the 1s next week), SPS (presently on holidays), Garlett (needs to get involved more but oozes class) and Pickett (cursed) to provide outside run....

But they're (other than Lang) something of a WIP?

And yes, if SOS can snare Shiel, bloody fantastic.

Indeed, whilst contracted to the end of 2019, don't be surprised to see this bloke in a Blues' jumper next season. 

Would i swap a #1 pick or similar for Shiel? Every day of the week. Ditto Kelly for that matter.

A risk vs a known quantity... no brainer.

You really think Lynch (GC Lynch) would make more difference than a Dylan Shiel to our team?

Your dreamin' 

You really think Lynch (GC Lynch) would make more difference than a Dylan Shiel to our team?

Your dreamin' 

Hard to argue either case to be honest as we could use both.

Anyone saying no to either is gilding the lilly slightly.

Reminder, Richmond recruited 3 players in the season prior to winning a flag:

An inside hard nut in Prestia.

A workman who can hurt you on the outside but play a tough accountable role in Caddy.

A ruckman who is in the prime of his career in Nankervis.

They didnt do one or the other.  They identified a few targets and landed them all.

We are far more deficient in KPF role models and leaders than in our midfield, in the mdifield we can see the rise of Fisher, alongside Cripps and others. It's no accident the club want Cripps to push forward, which robs Peter to pay Paul!

In my opinion our young tall KPFs are still some years off being reliable, consistent and competitive, I suspect at least 3 or 4 years based on the progress of other AFL talls. They typically come good in their 4th or 5th season, that is playing season not years on the list! Typically guys 25 or 26 are entering the performance zone. Most AFL talls are on a list for a season or two before they get a run at AFL level!

Our young mids with more games under their wing will sort itself out within a season or two at most. Fisher, Pickett, SPS, O'Brien and Dow will sort itself out within another season or two, guys age 22 or 23 are entering the performance zone.

Get the midfield dominant, the goals come as a result....

Not the other way round..... 

I'd call those three the finishing touch to their list, Shiel is more of a core player like Martin or Cotchin IMO...
Caddy has been the real surprise...tough ,intimidating and a goal kicker, exactly what we need and very hard to obtain....

No doubt EB1, thats why I am stating it shouldnt be an either argument, but BOTH and a bonus of as many others as we can.

We should be looking at more types who are surplus to requirements and looking to extend their careers somewhat.

Bartel makes a good point, who'd have thunk we need a mature experienced proven KPF!

Tom Lynch wouldn't do you much good sitting in forward 50 catching a cold with the ball not getting down there. Bartel's point came across as if he was making it up on the spot which is why it was probably so poorly thought out.