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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #30 –
Quote from: laj – on
If Kreuzer isn't fit I'd like to give De Konning a try in this game. He looks like he can play. He looks like he could play both forward and ruck. This is an ideal game to try him and give him a feel of AFL footy.

Didn't he get injured recently?

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #31 –
Not sure if we will get Harry back.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/07/02/blues-footy-boss-explains-why-mckay-isn't-getting-a-game/
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“He (Harry) obviously had a good stint in the seniors,” Andrew told SEN’s Time On.

“He wasn’t going as well as he would have liked, so we put him back in the VFL and he is still learning the game.

“Remember in his first year he had the stress reaction, ended up with a bit of glandular fever at the same time or shortly after, which meant he was out for most of that year.

“He is over 200cm, he is a young guy and they just take a bit longer to develop these young boys.

“I don’t think so (when asked if work rate is an issue).

“It’s game knowledge and a bit of experience playing with men.

“You can see little glimpses of what Harry can do, we just need to see that for longer.

“He is working on a couple of things. Make no mistake, Harry is going to be a very good player, so looking forward to seeing him develop.”

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #32 –
Christ, he was chipping in 2 goals a game - and learning on the job -  wow.

How much slack do blokes like O'Shea, Mullet etc get cut? Yet Harry.... and in a poor side with a weak midfield....

See ya later Macca.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #33 –
Quote from: kruddler – on
Not sure if we will get Harry back.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/07/02/blues-footy-boss-explains-why-mckay-isn't-getting-a-game/

If its game knowledge he should be in the seniors learning, he wont learn much in the NB's playing with some of the bananas we have running around at Cramer st.
He should be learning how to play as a tandem forward with Charlie or get on the end of a Cripps pass.....
 

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #34 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
If its game knowledge he should be in the seniors learning, he wont learn much in the NB's playing with some of the bananas we have running around at Cramer st.
He should be learning how to play as a tandem forward with Charlie or get on the end of a Cripps pass.....

x10000.

Crikey, our admin can talk the talk but if often conflicts with their talk the talk from the previous week....  ::) :-[ ::) :-[
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #35 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
If its game knowledge he should be in the seniors learning, he wont learn much in the NB's playing with some of the bananas we have running around at Cramer st.

McKay has no idea as a KPF, he's obviously survived at TAC level based on his size, reminds me of Casboult as a KPF who had never played as a KPF until 8 games before we drafted him!

At the moment Kerr and De Koning are a mile ahead of McKay in terms of football brains, but McKay has the size and physical advantage, but that is not enough at AFL. We know that you can have size and still be a spud who gets beaten by smaller players.



"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #36 –
Jenkins at Crows plays the same way,  Lynch was the same in the early part of his career.   We need all the goals we can get.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #37 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Jenkins at Crows plays the same way,  Lynch was the same in the early part of his career.   We need all the goals we can get.

KPPs need to create scoring opportunities for team-mates, that is the part Key refers to along with their size and bulk, if they spend too much time roving they are just clogging a space on the field that a smaller more agile player could fill!

It's no good Carlton fans complaining about Charlie Curnow or SoJ being muscled, tag teamed and bullied by bigger heavier bodies, and wishing that Cripps had the opportunity to use his size advantage inside F50, while at the same time accepting the opposition can allocate a medium sized defender to deal with your 200cm x 100kg forward!

We don't get to stand Plowman or Thomas on a Hawkins, Roughead or Franklin, why should opponents be allowed to stand mediums on our KPFs!

It's an abject failure of our coaching panel and player development that these situations continue to persist!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #38 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Jenkins at Crows plays the same way,  Lynch was the same in the early part of his career.   We need all the goals we can get.

Agree...Mckay kicks straight like Jenkins and has goal nous, sure the other parts of his game are not developed but he knows where the goals are
and we need players who can convert.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #39 –
If Jenkins is such a good example, why did so many posters on this forum oppose trading for him?
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #40 –
Quote from: LP – on
If Jenkins is such a good example, why did so many posters on this forum oppose trading for him?

Jenkins is good value when the Crows have Walker playing, Lynch, Eddie etc ...when he has to be the main man he doesnt assert himself and plays in a timid fashion which is strange given he is such a big unit.
We need a player who is prepared to be the main focus and lead the forward line, show some physicality and create for others....that aint Jenkins..

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #41 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Jenkins is good value when the Crows have Walker playing, Lynch, Eddie etc ...when he has to be the main man he doesnt assert himself and plays in a timid fashion which is strange given he is such a big unit.
We need a player who is prepared to be the main focus and lead the forward line, show some physicality and create for others....that aint Jenkins..

It's not McKay either at the moment, at the moment McKay plays more like Betts.

Kerr is much closer to this player, even if he's only a short term option until the others mature, Kerr leads straight up the guts and provides some structure. It's not Kerr's fault our rubbish disposal stops our mids and HBFs from kicking through the corridor.

Personally, if ACoS had gotten fit I'd have been playing him or Rowe up forward!

When I was around TAC Cup, the coaches under instruction from The Aints wanted KPFs doing 80% of their work as lead up forwards in a trapezium formed by the two point posts and the corners of the center square. It's not an unreasonable request, Johnno Brown made a career of it! It was as much about making forwards play in a predictable manner for the mids and HBFs as it was about the KPFs running the right patterns. Jack Riewoldt is probably the best current example, it would be interesting to see his heat map!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #44 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Agree...Mckay kicks straight like Jenkins and has goal nous, sure the other parts of his game are not developed but he knows where the goals are
and we need players who can convert.

If we can keep playing the likes of O'Shea, Mullett etc surely we can play McKay. He'll learn alot more playing in the AFL.