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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #75
No McKay.....match committee are POX????

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #76
It was never really a winnable game, given recent form, home ground etc., irrespective of any ins or outs.

I don't mind the team selection to be honest. Krooz and Philips as rotating tall forward / ruckman is not too bad. Dow deserves a rest, and Levi and "Stunned" deserve to be dropped.

If this isn't winninable then nothing is. Team selection is terrible.

Our MC have never heard of the saying " the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #77
If this isn't winninable then nothing is. Team selection is terrible.

Our MC have never heard of the saying " the definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".

I can understand that some people will point to our ladder position and say "MC are dumb f!@#s", but I think there's a lot more to it than that. I'm sure they have their reasons for various selections / omissions, most of which we wouldn't know.

I can't really see us winning any games for the rest of the season. Every team except us has shown some ability to play high scoring, winning footy, at various times. The Lions looked very good last week.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #78
Carlton's Round 16 line-up:

Backs   6. Kade Simpson   17. Sam Rowe   14. Liam Jones
Half-backs   39. Dale Thomas   23. Jacob Weitering   22. Caleb Marchbank
Centreline   25. Zac Fisher   9. Patrick Cripps   4. Lochie O'Brien
Half-forwards   7. Matthew Kennedy   30. Charlie Curnow   5. Sam Petrevski-Seton
Forwards   33. Jarrod Pickett   1. Jack Silvagni   46. Matthew Wright
Followers   8. Matthew Kreuzer   3. Marc Murphy (C)   35. Ed Curnow
Interchange   34. Andrew Phillips   32. Nick Graham   29. Cameron Polson
13. Jed Lamb   
Emergencies   18. Aaron Mullett   16. Darcy Lang   36. Patrick Kerr
10. Harry McKay

Looking at the emergencies, if you don't want to pick McKay then why not Kerr, who has looked the part.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #79
I can understand that some people will point to our ladder position and say "MC are dumb f!@#s", but I think there's a lot more to it than that. I'm sure they have their reasons for various selections / omissions, most of which we wouldn't know.

I can't really see us winning any games for the rest of the season. Every team except us has shown some ability to play high scoring, winning footy, at various times. The Lions looked very good last week.

When you're playing 17th you have a crack and pick a side to win, no ifs or buts there, not selections/combinations that have continually failed us.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #80
CARLTON
B: Kade Simpson, Sam Rowe, Liam Jones
HB: Dale Thomas, Jacob Weitering, Caleb Marchbank
C: Zac Fisher, Patrick Cripps, Lochie O'Brien
HF: Matthew Kennedy, Charlie Curnow, Sam Petrevski-Seton
F: Jarrod Pickett, Jack Silvagni, Matthew Wright
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Marc Murphy, Ed Curnow
Int: Andrew Phillips, Nick Graham, Cameron Polson, Jed Lamb

Emg: Aaron Mullett, Darcy Lang, Pat Kerr, Harry McKay

IN: Dale Thomas, Caleb Marchbank, Lochie O'Brien, Matthew Kreuzer

OUT: Levi Casboult (Omitted), Paddy Dow (Managed), Jarrod Garlett (Injured), Aaron Mullett (Omitted)

I scratch my head. Marchbank hasn't played for ages and was down on form badly, yet he is in with no time in the VFL.
Lochie O'Brien was dropped and didn't play last week either, so he couldn't impress. Yet, he comes in for Dow.
Kreuzer: I just hope he is 100%, as I hate playing guys not 100%.

Levi had to be dropped, but the bye hurts his chances. It will mean he misses at least 2 weeks.
Paddy Dow: fair enough, he has to be 'managed' some time.
Mullett wasn't as ordinary as he can be last week, but hopefully Daisy can play as well as he had before his suspension.

I would have played either McKay or Kerr, with McKay more likely.

Maybe they Match Committee can be geniuses. I just can't see it.

BRISBANE LIONS
B: Luke Hodge, Daniel McStay, Darcy Gardiner
HB: Daniel Rich, Tom Cutler, Alex Witherden
C: Lewis Taylor, Mitch Robinson, Dayne Zorko
HF: Cameron Rayner, Josh Walker, Hugh McCluggage
F: Allen Christensen, Eric Hipwood, Ryan Lester
R: Stefan Martin, Jarrod Berry, Dayne Beams
Int: Nick Robertson, Rhys Mathieson, Oscar McInerney, Jake Barrett

Emg: Ben Keays, Jacob Allison, Cedric Cox, Jack Frost

No change for them. I wonder who Robbo will play on this year? He used to play on Gibbs and usually beat him. Hopefully we can squash him.
Stefan Martin usually plays well against our rucks, as does Zorko.
Another guy I would like to squash is Hodge. He is a thug. Now he makes the Lions run taller.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #81
If that named side isn't tanking I've never seen it.   Must think chuck can kick a winning score by himself.

Lions by 45.

Over it.   MC have serious issues.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

 

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #82
I can't believe that Polson is still in the side, I know he's a kid and I hate potting kids but last week he was beyond bad.
What happens this week if he's just regular bad, does he keep getting a game?
Kids need to be shown that there's a certain standard that they must achieve.
The only thing in this world worth more than a hill of beans is the Carlton Football Club.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #83
I can't believe that Polson is still in the side, I know he's a kid and I hate potting kids but last week he was beyond bad.
What happens this week if he's just regular bad, does he keep getting a game?
Kids need to be shown that there's a certain standard that they must achieve.

As long it's not as high as McKay's standard for getting a game. As Terry Wallace said, players like McKay need to play and play and play to keep improving at this level. Not as if he was going badly.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #84
CARLTON
B: Kade Simpson, Sam Rowe, Liam Jones
HB: Dale Thomas, Jacob Weitering, Caleb Marchbank
C: Zac Fisher, Patrick Cripps, Lochie O'Brien
HF: Matthew Kennedy, Charlie Curnow, Sam Petrevski-Seton
F: Jarrod Pickett, Jack Silvagni, Matthew Wright
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Marc Murphy, Ed Curnow
Int: Andrew Phillips, Nick Graham, Cameron Polson, Jed Lamb

Emg: Aaron Mullett, Darcy Lang, Pat Kerr, Harry McKay

IN: Dale Thomas, Caleb Marchbank, Lochie O'Brien, Matthew Kreuzer

OUT: Levi Casboult (Omitted), Paddy Dow (Managed), Jarrod Garlett (Injured), Aaron Mullett (Omitted)

I scratch my head. Marchbank hasn't played for ages and was down on form badly, yet he is in with no time in the VFL.
Lochie O'Brien was dropped and didn't play last week either, so he couldn't impress. Yet, he comes in for Dow.
Kreuzer: I just hope he is 100%, as I hate playing guys not 100%.

Levi had to be dropped, but the bye hurts his chances. It will mean he misses at least 2 weeks.
Paddy Dow: fair enough, he has to be 'managed' some time.
Mullett wasn't as ordinary as he can be last week, but hopefully Daisy can play as well as he had before his suspension.

I would have played either McKay or Kerr, with McKay more likely.

Maybe they Match Committee can be geniuses. I just can't see it.

BRISBANE LIONS
B: Luke Hodge, Daniel McStay, Darcy Gardiner
HB: Daniel Rich, Tom Cutler, Alex Witherden
C: Lewis Taylor, Mitch Robinson, Dayne Zorko
HF: Cameron Rayner, Josh Walker, Hugh McCluggage
F: Allen Christensen, Eric Hipwood, Ryan Lester
R: Stefan Martin, Jarrod Berry, Dayne Beams
Int: Nick Robertson, Rhys Mathieson, Oscar McInerney, Jake Barrett

Emg: Ben Keays, Jacob Allison, Cedric Cox, Jack Frost

No change for them. I wonder who Robbo will play on this year? He used to play on Gibbs and usually beat him. Hopefully we can squash him.
Stefan Martin usually plays well against our rucks, as does Zorko.
Another guy I would like to squash is Hodge. He is a thug. Now he makes the Lions run taller.
So to summarise, we have two ruckmen, one true forward (Charlie) and a half forward/mid/back (SOJ), and 4 tall defenders.

They went with 1 ruck, 2 tall forwards (one of whom is a skinny kid) and a couple of tall defenders.

We are going to be run off the park.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #85
It's a game we can win without "damaging" ::) our ladder position
With percentage we're effectively two games behind Brisbane.

Why not give it a shot.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #86
I like it.
- I reckon IF Kreuzer plays, he'll play fwd alot and Phillips will have a crack at Martin. All Flip needs to do is break even with Martin (like he did vs Ryder). Mackay or Kerr will come in if Kreuzer doesnt get up.
- Dow needs a rest.
- Levi was bad last week, whether it was form or a sore hand, either way the omission is good.
- Mullet and Garlett omissions fair enough.
- Marchy straight in, I guess thats how highly he is rated internally and quite frankly, I happy to see him back. If he doesnt come up, Kerr may come in.
I think the game is winnable.
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Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #87
I don't mind the changes.

Much rather see
Phillips + Kreuzer
vs
Casboult + Kreuzer or Casboult + Phillips.

Dow having a rest, nothing to prove.
Garlett (injured) fair enough.
Mullett dropped, he is not the future so good.

As for McKay...
Reckon he is showing why he was a 'reach' with our pick. Was always a speculative one. He is very raw and basically needs to learn how to play football. I don't have a problem with his development in the 2's as he'll be more of a target there than he will be in the 1's with Curnowfides.
Kerr...he'll get more time. Still only young too.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #88
I like it.
- I reckon IF Kreuzer plays, he'll play fwd alot and Phillips will have a crack at Martin. All Flip needs to do is break even with Martin (like he did vs Ryder). Mackay or Kerr will come in if Kreuzer doesnt get up.
- Dow needs a rest.
- Levi was bad last week, whether it was form or a sore hand, either way the omission is good.
- Mullet and Garlett omissions fair enough.
- Marchy straight in, I guess thats how highly he is rated internally and quite frankly, I happy to see him back. If he doesnt come up, Kerr may come in.
I think the game is winnable.

Tend to agree, the changes are fair enough imo. Not sure about winning though - we sure can't afford to go to sleep for a quarter as we did last week.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: 2018 Rd 15: Pre Game Prattle: Carlton vs Brisbane

Reply #89
Interesting for me will be to see Phillips against Martin.

Phillips should have him covered for reach and leap, Martin will be very physical so lets see how Phillips deals with that because it hasn't been one of his strengths!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"