Carlton Supporters Club

Doc isnt a glass man.  He has had all of 2 knee reconstructions in 2 years and before that was in the team pretty much every week.

I rate most of these guys.  Its really hard to put them in our best 22 when the caveat states "when fit".  Someone like Kreuzer is 30 years old and has stayed fit for about half a year every year since he first started breaking down.  That means that he is only best 22 when fit, and most of the time isnt in our best 22.

The point is the successful teams have an appropriate balance that they can make use of accordingly, imbalance being the aspect I raised about the earlier team.

FWIW, I think Tom is great at winning the football but his disposal is not damaging like a Dusty or Shuey, some rounds Tom struggled to hit the side of a barn leaving more than 1/2 his efforts wasted!

But I'm not big on the Brownlow as a measure, look at Dangerfield, we know know an effective disposal is anything that goes 50m even if it goes straight to an opponent which is the majority of his disposals go to nobody or to the opposition! Similar to Tom Mitchell!

We aren't free of players like this, as good as he is in my opinion Cripps biggest issue is poor disposal efficiency.

TM goes at 70%DE per game...thats not bad for a supposed ball butcher...Pendlebury who most rate as an ace ball user goes at 75%.....

Be careful of stats, Dangerfield gets a wrap but the stats take his 60m long bombs to nobody as efficient disposals.

I could read all the stats, but coming out of midfield traffic to hit a moving forward target I'd take Pendles over Tom by a long long long way!

How much of Tom's 70% DE are 2m handballs?

Be careful of stats, Dangerfield gets a wrap but the stats take his 60m long bombs to nobody as efficient disposals.

I could read all the stats, but coming out of midfield traffic to hit a moving forward target I'd take Pendles over Tom by a long long long way!

How much of Tom's 70% DE are 2m handballs?

Sometimes, bombing the ball forward is all that matters...

All fit and up and running, I'd go with....

B: Newman, Jones, Marchbank
Hb: Docherty, Weitering, Simpson
C: Walsh, Cripps, Setterfield
Hf: Martin, C.Curnow, Gibbons
F: Betts, McKay, McGovern
Foll: Kreuzer, E.Curnow
Rov: Murphy
I/c: Fisher, Petrevski-Seton, Casboult, Newnes

We should now better than most, we've almost had 20 years of it!

Think TM was No 1 for effective disposals in 2018, as well as clangars so my point is by sheer weight of numbers he is effective so even if he butchers his fair share
the ball is going Hawthorns way more often than not and if TM has the ball then the opposition dont.
He might not be Pendles with the ball but that doesnt mean you can disrespect him like we did and rack up 45 possies and hand him three brownlow votes...

Here is my best 22, and my second best 22

B	Docherty	Weitering	Plowman
B2	Polson	Goddard	Macreadie
HB	Newman	Jones	Simpson
HB2	Stocker	Marchbank	Williamson
C	Newnes	Cripps	Martin
C2	Philps	Kennedy	Obrien
HF	Murphy	Charlie	Cuningham
HF2	Kemp	Casboult	Honey
FF	Betts	McKay	McGovern
FF2	Lang	De Koning	Owies
R	Kreuzer	Walsh	Ed
R2	Pittonet	Dow	Gibbons
INT	SPS	Jack	Fisher	Setterfield
INT2	Ramsay	Ben	Cottrell	Odwyer	Phillips

I think we forget just how good Sam Doherty was in 2017. He played every game and averaged 27.9 disposals, 5.7 rebound 50s, 504m gained, 6.3 intercept possessions and 3.3 tackles per match.
He was bloody good! Add the footy IP he has gained over the past two years, to that onfield talent and we might just have the recruit of the year.  The main question would be will 2 JLT games be enough leD in or does he need time in the NBs??