Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3765 – July 16, 2021, 08:18:48 am Quote from: Thryleon – on July 15, 2021, 09:31:15 pmNothing wrong with taking exception to things, I just think we need a bit more compassion as a society. Couldn't agree more re compassion/empathy. Sadly, there are those who will take advantage of kindness and trust so we need boundaries to let these people know that there is a line and a limit. It would certainly seem that the removalists crossed that line, but any anger at the folks who moved house is very misguided - they applied for and received permits so, yes, compassion for them as innocents in all of this is absolutely required. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3766 – July 16, 2021, 08:28:40 am Quote from: Baggers – on July 16, 2021, 08:18:48 amCouldn't agree more re compassion/empathy. Sadly, there are those who will take advantage of kindness and trust so we need boundaries to let these people know that there is a line and a limit. It would certainly seem that the removalists crossed that line, but any anger at the folks who moved house is very misguided - they applied for and received permits so, yes, compassion for them as innocents in all of this is absolutely required.I was going to post virtually the same thing. The removalists did the wrong thing, now man up and assist those that need the information to assist the greater community. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3767 – July 16, 2021, 08:50:38 am Quote from: flyboy77 – on July 15, 2021, 10:41:41 pmMy guesstimate - these vaccines will be stopped within 2-3 months. Globally.Too much collateral damage.Will you bet your house on AZ/Pfizer & Co all being abandoned by mid October? Come on, show us how convinced you are.I had my first jab a little while back and the only side effect, a little disconcerting, was growing a new ear on the back of my head... has its uses. The only painful part was the second injection when the microchip was injected... now that smarted. With the numbers of first jab folks and second jab folks combined, just over 9 million Aussies have had C19 vaccines, and just over 9 million of those have survived. When, last year here in Vic, we allowed the virus to run loose before belatedly locking down... did we (tragically) lose anyone? Were there any deaths? Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3768 – July 16, 2021, 09:14:03 am Keep in mind vaccines are always evolving and developing like the virus they target, even the vaccines we get commonly like Polio and Measles are not the same as the day they started many decades ago, the real shock would be if the Pfizer and AZ aren't being refined.The deniers will claim that sort of vaccine evolution is a stopping and changing to a new vaccine. Quote Selected Last Edit: July 16, 2021, 09:27:51 am by LP 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3769 – July 16, 2021, 09:19:40 am Am fully vaccinated, second Pfizer jab received Sat, zero side effects to report. Quote Selected 4 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3770 – July 16, 2021, 10:12:09 am Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 16, 2021, 09:19:40 amAm fully vaccinated, second Pfizer jab received Sat, zero side effects to report.Good stuff Nando. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3771 – July 16, 2021, 10:15:24 am What we, in the contemporary sense, understand by vaccines, have been around since the very late 1700's. Since then, their efficacy and effectiveness is undisputed. A number of infectious diseases brought under control, and a small number eradicated altogether. The idea that some or all of the covid vaccines will be pulled from the market is beyond crazy. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3772 – July 16, 2021, 10:48:47 am AstraZ will be phased out in Aus imo in favour of Pfizer and Moderna.Not sure if the USA have approved it and you might need a jab of Pfizer to travel there once borders open up. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3773 – July 16, 2021, 11:00:56 am Quote from: Mav – on July 16, 2021, 01:50:54 amI took your advice and questioned everything. I found out that the Epoch Times is associated with the Falun Gong and has been a huge supporter of Donald Trump. They see him as heaven sent to take down the Chinese communist party. Apart from seeing communists everywhere, they've also adopted QAnon conspiracy theories and believe in the deep state cabal of lefty paedophiles raping children and drinking their blood yada yada yada. The author seems to have psychology qualifications and writes childrens' books and is associated with PANDA, a Covid-sceptic organisation run by an actuary/private equity investor. I probably prefer some greater expertise in the area.Thank God you warned me to question everything Flyboy or I might have been sucked it by that nonsense. You always play the man Mav, not the ball.Says it all. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3774 – July 16, 2021, 11:05:02 am Dr Tess Lawrie calling it out in the UK.http://medisolve.org/yellowcard_urgentprelimreport.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1k77rN0K-7pcCaQ7A4heGucozyaz_JXL5ctl-wWfEtbx8kVFVLCbgUC3wFeel free to explain the numbers in the attachment LP. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3775 – July 16, 2021, 11:05:18 am Quote from: flyboy77 – on July 16, 2021, 11:00:56 amYou always play the man Mav, not the ball.Says it all.If crooks and charlatans get offered up as supporting evidence, it is probably pointless to get offended when they are exposed. Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3776 – July 16, 2021, 11:06:09 am Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on July 16, 2021, 10:48:47 amAstraZ will be phased out in Aus imo in favour of Pfizer and Moderna.Not sure if the USA have approved it and you might need a jab of Pfizer to travel there once borders open up.Novavax (sp?) coming soon too? Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3777 – July 16, 2021, 11:07:34 am Quote from: LP – on July 16, 2021, 11:05:18 amIf crooks and charlatans get offered up as supporting evidence, it is probably pointless to get offended when they are exposed.Straw man argument.As usual you fail to put up anything substantive....It's the standard, listen to me, I know best.Are you related to dopey Dan by chance? Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3778 – July 16, 2021, 11:14:27 am Quote from: flyboy77 – on July 16, 2021, 11:05:02 amDr Tess Lawrie calling it out in the UK.http://medisolve.org/yellowcard_urgentprelimreport.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1k77rN0K-7pcCaQ7A4heGucozyaz_JXL5ctl-wWfEtbx8kVFVLCbgUC3wFeel free to explain the numbers in the attachment LP.Offering reports based on the unfiltered Yellow Card scheme is pointless, because unfiltered it almost worthless data collected by what is a voluntary self-reporting scheme by any capable member of the public capable of completing the forms for themselves or on behalf of another. My UK associate advises me the protestors stand outside vaccination clinics offering to help patients complete a report mere minutes after an injection, in effect touting for naysayer business like a PETA protestor harassing clients of a butcher!When the real experts cut out the questionable reports and other plainly false claims from that data, the denial apparatchiks then claim it is a global conspiracy. Apparently we have to take the deliberate false claims and obvious errors unfiltered without question! Quote Selected
Re: CV and mad panic behaviour Reply #3779 – July 16, 2021, 11:15:18 am Quote from: flyboy77 – on July 16, 2021, 11:07:34 amAre you related to dopey Dan by chance?Is that playing the man deliberate or accidental irony, should I ask @Mav ?A 7 minute memory limit?Quote from: flyboy77 – on July 16, 2021, 11:00:56 amYou always play the man Mav, not the ball.Says it all.You offered a qualifying source, @Mav exposed the source as a charlatan, much as I did with the Robert F "The King of Anti-Vaxxers" Kennedy Jr rubbish offered that was offered up a few days back. Then you claim it's a personal attack on you as a form of misdirection.Play the data not the man might be good advice for you to follow! Quote Selected Last Edit: July 16, 2021, 11:19:56 am by LP 1 Likes