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Reply #1935
Lol. So all this fulminating and raging against wokeness on the off chance that a handful of people may inappropriately complete a survey. Is this like Claud Cockburn's spoof headline from decades ago ? "Small earthquake in Chile !! Not many dead !!"

I strongly advocate cancelling all social justice initiatives because there's a slim chance that some poor misguided soul may take the p1ss  ::)
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #1936
I strongly advocate cancelling all social justice initiatives because there's a slim chance that some poor misguided soul may take the p1ss  ::)
The suggestion it's OK for a biological male who "identifies as female" to take some limited allocation of resources from biological females in a female gendered activity is an abomination. In health research it's even more critical than matters of social activity like sport. Allowing such events is not social justice at all, it's the very opposite!

I gravely doubt you or many others would sit quietly and accept a female in your life gets displaced from any limited resource activity simply so a male who identifies as female can take a spot.

It's too easy to sit on the fence on these issues, too comfortable, and many do when they don't have a wife or daughter involved in the events. We been through this debate previously about transgender athletes, it's largely the same.

Females have suffered long enough under various forms of misogyny, much like the case being discussed, it was hard enough to compete for funding and opportunities against Bob, Frank and Harry, now they have to worry about Mary nee Fred!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1937
I've been doing a little reading over the last couple of hours, and it's pretty clear that endometriosis is a real issue for trans people.

A decent society provides care for all who need it. It does not pit one worthy group against another. This is not a competition, not for funding, and not for public affection and support. 

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Reply #1938
I've been doing a little reading over the last couple of hours, and it's pretty clear that endometriosis is a real issue for trans people.


Is that one's that are born female?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

 

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Reply #1939

I saw one study that noted prevalence of endometriosis in transgender men (i.e those assigned female at birth) is higher than the female cisgender population.

I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing the study of these issues is very much in its infancy, with a lot of work to be done.

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Reply #1940
I've been doing a little reading over the last couple of hours, and it's pretty clear that endometriosis is a real issue for trans people.
Just as prostate cancer remains a real issue for transitioned people I've already mentioned that, and I also have an associate who was born female and transitioned to male but still suffers endometriosis, actually before the endometriosis they suffered what was functionally ovarian cancer as well. A tough gig. Going the route of synthetic gender doesn't eliminate biological gender related diseases for anything you can't have excised.

But none of that is the point, that is not the "identify as female" category we are discussing, the guidelines do not discriminate between those who surgically transition and others who just declare a gender.

It puts the researchers in a horrible position, they will have to construct ways to discriminate legally or risk losing funding, or perhaps even be prosecuted should some actor become malicious. It's untenable, if they can't discriminate it wastes funding and resources on individuals who could not possibly have some of the gender specific diseases that are under the intended research banner.

I'm sorry this has gone on so long, I suspect now we have been debating two different things.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1941
I saw one study that noted prevalence of endometriosis in transgender men (i.e those assigned female at birth) is higher than the female cisgender population.

I'm not a scientist, but I'm guessing the study of these issues is very much in its infancy, with a lot of work to be done.
Not shocking to hear considering hormones are supposed to play a part in how endemetriosis goes.  If they take testosterone that would likely exacerbate it. 

Thing is how would these sufferers go in an examination about prostate problems?

Probably irrelevant to the price of fish.  Do we include them in a study because its inclusive to do so?  Won't help me if I'm the beneficiary of said study but not sure what it will illuminate among trans folk.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1942
Andrew Bolt,
"I'll quit if James Murdoch wins succession battle!"  >:(
World,
"Go James, go James, go James, go James!" :D
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1943
Kouta For Mayor!

Carlton champion Anthony Koutoufides has declared he will run for Melbourne lord mayor.

The Herald Sun has confirmed that the former AFL star, who played 278 games for the Blues, will run in the October local council election and challenge Lord Mayor Nick Reece for the city’s top job.

Rumours have been swirling for weeks that Koutoufides – best known as ‘Kouta’ – would enter the mayoral race, but he had refused to confirm his candidacy until now.

In a statement, Koutoufides, 51, said the “time to act is now”, as he kicked off his campaign by unveiling a number of his key policies.

“Your voices need to be heard and the final quarter has just started,” he said.

“Vote for a better Melbourne.”

Anthony Koutoufides played 278 games for Carlton.
Koutoufides – who is running on an independent ticket – said Melbourne’s CBD was in “utter crisis”, pledging to “make the city vibrant again” if elected.

“In our lovely city, many businesses are closing down, residents currently do not feel safe, shop fronts are vacant, government workers have not returned to the city to work since the pandemic and the current economic and cost-of-living crisis has increased homelessness in the CBD,” he said in the statement.

“The pandemic has been over for a long time, so our first priority is to bring government and corporate workers back to the city.

“We will work with the state government to introduce new laws that government and corporate workers must work at least 4 days a week in their office to enliven the city.”

He said to tackle the cost-of-living crisis, he would move to “fast track planning permits” for more affordable housing and “incentivise developers and landlords who want to convert office space to residential space”.

“Our city needs a range of accommodation options and (we) will ensure that those sleeping rough on our streets won’t be left behind,” he said.

“They will always have a permanent, safe and secure home.”

According to the statement, Koutoufides will lead ‘Team Kouta’ – described as a “high-performance team” – as its “captain”, having led Carlton from 2004 to 2006.

But no mention was made of his running mate.

The Herald Sun is yet to speak to Koutoufides, who is currently travelling in remote Western Australia, with his team sending out the statement on his behalf.

The Herald Sun understands that Intaj Khan, a flamboyant former councillor at Wyndham City Council, will be a part of ‘Team Kouta’, but his exact role on the ticket remains unclear.

Mr Khan, a wealthy property land developer, announced he would run for Melbourne lord mayor in 2018, but was ruled ineligible because he was still serving as a Wyndham councillor.

He was convicted and fined $26,000 in 2018 on eight charges for failing to disclose companies “in which he held office during the return period” and “in which he held a financial interest” during his time on Wyndham City Council.


Koutoufides now joins Mr Reece, former deputy lord mayor Arron Wood, Labor’s Phil Reed, the Greens’ Roxane Ingleton, pollster Gary Morgan and current councillor Jamal Hakim in the mayoral race, with fewer than 75 days to go.

Senior Liberal sources last month confirmed the party will endorse a mayoral candidate for the first time in its history after years of “political control” by Labor and the Greens at a local council level, but the party has not made any formal announcement.

Only last weekend, Mr Reece posted a photo to Instagram showing him and Koutoufides smiling side-by-side ahead of Carlton’s demoralising loss to Hawthorn.

The 191cm powerhouse was inducted into the Australian Hall of Fame in 2014, was also a two-time All Australian and was named in both the Greek and Italian teams of the century because of his parent’s heritage.

Born in Melbourne, Koutoufides grew up in Thomastown and played his junior footy with Lalor.

After footy, he appeared on the TV series Gladiators as Kouta, described as a “uniquely unparalleled athlete”.

“Gifted with incredible powers, the Greek gods have seen fit to raise Kouta up to be a member of their select group,’’ the show’s promotion said.

In 2006, he won the fifth season on Dancing With The Stars with Natalie Lowe.

Koutoufides married wife Susie in 2002 and they have three children – Lukas, Jamie and Monique.

Most recently, he tried his hand at acting as a prison guard in period crime drama Vendetta 19, set in Pentridge Prison.

Koutoufides is also the founder of fitness business Kouta Fit.

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Reply #1944
Only one possible running mate
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #1945
Sigh……..

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Reply #1946
Great footballer. ;)

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Reply #1947

Yep. He needs to stop finding new ways of embarrassing himself and tarnishing his legacy. Knows nothing about business, then you wonder why his fast food operation goes belly up. Knows nothing about coaching, then you wonder why Ratten told him to get stuffed when he offered his services free of charge. Knows nothing about politics and running for office,............

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Reply #1948
Yep. He needs to stop finding new ways of embarrassing himself and tarnishing his legacy. Knows nothing about business, then you wonder why his fast food operation goes belly up. Knows nothing about coaching, then you wonder why Ratten told him to get stuffed when he offered his services free of charge. Knows nothing about politics and running for office,............
You can thank social media and Donald Trump for shizen like this, Koutasonaro step up!

He's probably a good chance to get in, and then be eaten alive by politically savvy opponents.

My advice to Kouta, don't do it!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1949
John So says hi
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