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Reply #2400 – Today at 06:05:31 pm

I talked to some Australia Protest types today, it was clear to me many participants have been misled, either accidentally or deliberately the people marching aren't all marching under the same banner. That's a problem, because the neo-Nazi types are using the participation and attendance as a recruiting medium.

A had to ask them why they were marching, most said they were protesting against illegal immigrants. I had to question this, they qualified it with queue jumpers who arrive by boat or plane and stay in Australia illegally, that is either without a visa or beyond the visa term. When I asked them how many arrived by boat last year they gave me a range of answers from a thousand to tens of thousand, when I pointed out the total head count for boat arrivals last year was about 150 people they refused to believe it. They have been told illegal immigrants number in the hundreds of thousands, I asked them are they against immigration, and they said no, they are only protesting illegal immigration. But that is not what the event organisers stated in the media, they were pushing an anti-immigration message. It demonstrates how devious the organisers really are, with disinformation, and deception used to recruit participants.

Hard reality is exposed in the numbers.
On average about 500,000 legal immigrants or visa holders arrive in Australia each year, that's 12,500,000 over the last 25 years and the average is remarkably stable despite what some political parties claim. In any one year there are only about 70,000 in total that remain illegally, the average illegal overstay is only 4 weeks, most leave once they are alerted that their vias has expired. So the longer term overstays are about 35,000 as a percentage of 500,000. But of course a small percentage of the overstays are multi-year overstays, so that 35,000 must really be a percentage of 1,000,000 or more. I've been told the real-world percentage for overstays hovers around 0.2%, 1 in 500.

Over the same period the population has grown about 7,000,000, the doubters looked puzzled when I told them this, because they don't seem to think anybody leaves or dies.

One of the protestors I talked to today was the daughter of a legal Mauritian boat arrival immigrant, 50 years ago, what do you think the Ex-Kiwi Neo-Nazi protest leader thinks of her, and would he reserve a spot for her child in his private home school program?