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Reply #1695 –
Kinda like Mark Waugh and more than a few others from that state.
Consistency sets the greats apart from the also rans.
I don't see what the selectors see in Green, Webster is a heart and soul team man. He may not have Greens talent but he's stood up when required thus far.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1696 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Kinda like Mark Waugh and more than a few others from that state.
Consistency sets the greats apart from the also rans.
I don't see what the selectors see in Green, Webster is a heart and soul team man. He may not have Greens talent but he's stood up when required thus far.
Agree on Green, he is no number three and very over hyped as an all-rounder given he hardly ever bowls.
Webster is a more reliable cricketer and I'd be picking him over Green for the No 6 spot.

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Reply #1697 –
Mark Wood bowled 8 overs in the lilac hill game and has been sent for scans on his hamstring after experiencing tightness.
Can't see him playing in the 1st test ,and if he does then he won't see out the game.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1698 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Quote from: Professer E – on
Kinda like Mark Waugh and more than a few others from that state.
Consistency sets the greats apart from the also rans.
I don't see what the selectors see in Green, Webster is a heart and soul team man. He may not have Greens talent but he's stood up when required thus far.
Agree on Green, he is no number three and very over hyped as an all-rounder given he hardly ever bowls.
Webster is a more reliable cricketer and I'd be picking him over Green for the No 6 spot.

Everyone always says to pick the best performed shield players.  Green has been the best batter by a long way over the past feew years, at shield level.  his bowling is a bonus

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Reply #1699 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Mark Wood bowled 8 overs in the lilac hill game and has been sent for scans on his hamstring after experiencing tightness.
Can't see him playing in the 1st test ,and if he does then he won't see out the game.

Stokes took 6 wickets...............  every single one of them a slog caught on the fence!!!    The B Team, with only 4 specialist batsmen in the line up made 370odd at 5 an over, against the test attack.    this is their only warm up game

having said that - they will probably all be on fire for the 1st test

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Reply #1700 –
My old man was a cricket tragic.  He played one season with Carlton before the politics got to much and he went back to Coburg RSL.

Anyway, he was dead against all-rounders who could bowl a bit and bat a bit.  He always maintained that an all-rounder should win his place because he was the best batsman or the best bowler for that spot in the team.  For example, Richie Benaud was in the Test team because he was the best leg spinner.  His ability with the bat was a bonus.  Doug Walters was in the Test team because he was the best middle order batsman.  His bowling was a bonus.  Selectors these days seem to favour all-rounders who can bowl a bit and bat a bit.

I would call Green a batsman who can bowl but I don't think he deserves a Test spot on the strength of his batting.  Webster is more of a bowl a bit and bat a bit all-rounder but, in form, his ability to bowl off spin and medium pace gives him an edge over Green.

"Negative waves are not helpful. Try saying something righteous and hopeful instead." Oddball

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Reply #1701 –
Quote from: DJC – on
Webster is more of a bowl a bit and bat a bit all-rounder but, in form, his ability to bowl off spin and medium pace gives him an edge of Green.
Excluding the Wicketkeeper / Batsmen, Webster is as close to a genuine All-Rounder that we have had in decades, 1st Class tons, 1st Class 5 wicket hauls.

Plus to me he has a toughness about how he plays the game, he can easily be as brutal with bat as Green or Marsh, and he won't waste over bowling half-track rubbish or no-spin pies like some of the alternatives.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #1702 –
Hazlewood underwent repeat imaging on Saturday that has confirmed a hamstring strain.
surprise surprise
 

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Reply #1703 –
The real problem with cricket is on display in Saffie land. The insiders are slamming the pitch, even players involved in the game are out throwing rocks at the curator.

But despite the pitch doing the usual things that aren't expected from a "real wicket", the true problem on display is the loss of will for players to work at the long format game. Both teams have basically give up and turned the game into a 2 x ODI, IPL, BBL, etc., etc., has turned them into sponges, too soft for the tough jobs.

The pitch is ordinary, but it's the sort of pitch a Border or Simpson would scratch out a ton at snail pace, modern players just don't have the will to accumulate big scores in 1s and 2s. The modern players don't want to do it tough, they fly 1st and stay in 5 star, no more tin sheds, wooden benches and cold showers, it's caviar and Krug for then before another early night. More money for less work, it's killing the game!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"