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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #90 –
Quote from: Gags1960 – on
Murphy has golden ticket to 300


Nice career but not worthy of current selection

Teague sucks...over his namby pamby pressers...beat us everywhere good coaching..must get better at the contest...so useless

our ball use was poor.....hello..we have sucked all year...no skills ..we must grow and learn...wtf u been doing for 16 months?

We are so over this crap poor coaching and nice guy approach....weak assist coaches like Barker useless 10 years ..get McClure involved and some hard nut Carlton 80/90s flag legends involved


So your solution is to get dinosaurs from the 80s and 90s? And what will they do? Tap the Kegs in the rooms Post Match?
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #91 –
Maybe bring some old school winning tough nut culture back into the rooms when we don't  take competitive losses as a pass mark or am I being to old school dinosaur and not new age? maybe might hurt a few sensitive woke feelings sorry......

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #92 –
Quote from: Gags1960 – on
Maybe bring some old school winning tough nut culture back into the rooms when we don't  take competitive losses as a pass mark or am I being to old school dinosaur and not new age? maybe might hurt a few sensitive woke feelings sorry......
Talk is cheap, I am sure plenty of old timers have been in the rooms telling them their war stories, hasn't worked, never will.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #93 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
I think Murphy is using some of those credits he has banked as a near 300 game player and the club are showing him loyalty due to his status and want to send him off in a positive light rather than allowing him to fade to black quickly.

I have to disagree. He is getting games because he is the best available for his spot. Just like Nathan Jones at Melbourne, when some kid is good enough to take Murphy's spot, that kid will get his chance. It could be next week, next month. next year. I simply don't believe he is being gifted games. He gets games because he deserves them. Murphy is still highly regarded by people in the know. Only a few weeks ago, Ross Lyon was waxing lyrical about how highly he rates him.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #94 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Talk is cheap, I am sure plenty of old timers have been in the rooms telling them their war stories, hasn't worked, never will.

Agree. Maclure must be some kind of poster boy for disgruntled keyboard warriors. Lots of talk, most of it pseudo "tough talk", yet zero action to back it up, and zero accountability. If he reckons he has the answers, why doesn't he roll his sleeves up and get to work, instead of bitching in the media, which does nothing to help ? He captures the groundswell of people who want their grievances heard, but offers nothing except shallow platitudes and empty cliches.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #95 –
Quote from: LP – on
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Teague made an interesting point post match about being hurt by players trying too hard and being sucked into the contest is a big part of the recent results.. ..............................

Then folks on here complain that we apply no pressure and continually sag off the opposition.

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Reply #96 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Then folks on here complain that we apply no pressure and continually sag off the opposition.


We're the worst pressure side in the comp. Champion data backs this up.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #98 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Are those figures for this season ?

I saw them a couple of weeks ago and it was for this season but this has been a common theme for a few years now.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #99 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I saw them a couple of weeks ago and it was for this season but this has been a common theme for a few years now.

Thanks. I don't suppose you have a link ? I'd be keen to see them myself.

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Reply #100 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
We're the worst pressure side in the comp. Champion data backs this up.
The stats are never defined the way people think, and not always defined or used the same way by all clubs, so you have to be careful when comparing club comments against a 3rd party service.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #101 –
Quote from: PaulP – on
Thanks. I don't suppose you have a link ? I'd be keen to see them myself.

I saw it on TV but I can try to find.

2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!
 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #102 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
I saw it on TV but I can try to find.

That's ok. No need to waste your time. I'm sure one of the episodes of Pure Footy has covered this.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #103 –
Quote from: LP – on
The stats are never defined the way people think, and not always defined or used the same way by all clubs, so you have to be careful when comparing club comments against a 3rd party service.

What are you saying?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #104 –
Quote from: madbluboy – on
What are you saying?
For example, what is a bare minimum pressure act in your opinion, approaching a player within 5m, 3m or a tackle?

Perhaps you've got defenders that need to run and jump at the footy, so they are coached to hang back a bit, or a defender that likes body on body you stand them shoulder to shoulder, those get categorised differently.

When does a pressure act count, how far away from the ball is the act defined, are your players coached to move early or late? There is no right answer, it's just a team system.

Secondly, most stats depend on team tactics, play a long kicking game and your team has less of everything. Win the inside clearances and your club is probably low on tackles, lose clearances and the same may be high!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"