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Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #75 –
Yep, that play where CJ merely ambled after the ball while Durdin hit it at full speed and snapped truly made CJ look like Essendon's James Stewart allowing the bouncing ball to cross the goal line unmolested. And that was on a day when CJ was running hot.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #76 –
Quote from: WASurfer – on
LP....a reason why I think we'll miss Durdin this week....his work when the ball hits the ground is really good. Puts a bit more pressure on Owies this week. Might be in Jack Martin's favour....he might be the IN for Durdin.
Last weekend I rated Owies game higher than Durdin, might not have looked much on TV but he runs end to end and applies heaps of pressure that probably goes unnoticed.

From memory at least one of Durdin's opportunities was created by an Owies contest.

FWIW, same applies to Setterfield and LoB, they all competed strongly, made contests that caused spills and the gloss goes to the finisher at the end of the possession chain, but no Owies, Setterfield, Hewett, Kennedy or LoB types doing the grunt stuff and there is no possession chain.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #77 –
But having someone like Durdin who can can convert half chances is also vital. The ability to snap at goal with a reasonable chance of success is reasonably rare. The more blue-collar defensive small forwards tend to feed it backwards by hand and that often means chances go begging. We've all seen the chain of backwards handballs which start around the goalsquare and due to congestion & pressure they continue until the ball is outside the F50 area.

A somewhat different example occurred in the Port/Demons match last night. A Port player had managed to run the ball towards goal from o/s the 50 IIRC and failed to pull the trigger with a shot at goal repeatedly. Finally, he dodged a defender and ran to the goalsquare only to have his belated kick at goal smothered by two Demons defenders. You need guys who have a high proficiency in taking shots at goal when fleeting opportunities present.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #78 –
Durdin appears to really have something, whomever recruited him has a clue.

What surprised me the most on the day was CJ.   Last time we played the whorks I came away with the opinion that he was as clueless a player as I've seen,  maybe if we made him defend we might have seen a few more mistakes and panicky stuff.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #79 –
CJ had proved himself well-and-truly before he was injured last year. It was only a matter of whether he'd be rusty after recovering from his injury and a restricted preseason. He wasn't.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #80 –
Durdin has Eddies dancing feet.
 
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #81 –
Quote from: Mav – on
But having someone like Durdin who can can convert half chances is also vital. 
One of the big problems we had last game after Qtr-time was that the Dawks cleaned up almost 100% of the ground ball in our F50. Durdin wasn't that effective on his lonesome, and Owies and Fisher were being dragged up the ground to compete on the Wing or HBF.

The cause was a loss of midfield run, those HFFs and SFs end up out of position chasing up the field and the ball ends up being kicked over their heads to the marking targets. The SFs end up running back and forth with the ball sailing overhead. We needed some structural change that would allow the SFs and HFFs to stay home. In effect the lost intercept marking of Gov and Martin really hurt us when our Mids were not getting the clearances.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"
 

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #82 –
Quote from: northernblue – on
Durdin has Eddies dancing feet.
 
Ill make a rather bold prediction and say Durds will surpass Eddie.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #83 –
@LP Root cause of all of it, was shocking decision making when hitting targets.  There was multiple occasions, we kicked long to Harry with or without mates near the goal square, and it was 2 carlton players to about 6 hawthorn defenders.  This is why they cleared it so easily.  The little blokes were probably in the clear somewhere else, and this is why Jack hit the scoreboard so well last week.

Vision and decision making were the problems.  Not what any of the players were doing with their running power or work rate.  This is all a problem caused by a lack of composure and panic.   For some reason I thought to myself we should be in control of this game, yet for some reason we looked like we were rushing things. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #84 –
Not sure there were all that many ground balls for the small forwards to crumb. In Q1 Harry and Charlie were clunking them, so the front & squares were as useful as teets on a bull. After Q1, the talls ran out of gas a bit, so they were being outmarked by the defenders. They didn't need to take the mark: they just needed to bring the ball to ground but that didn't happen that much. Can't blame them much as they set up the win in Q1 and both Harry and Charlie have had injury interruptions in the preseason. Hopefully they get somewhere close to maximum fitness by September.

Re: AFL Rd 4 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #85 –
Quote from: Thryleon – on
Vision and decision making were the problems.  Not what any of the players were doing with their running power or work rate.  This is all a problem caused by a lack of composure and panic.  For some reason I thought to myself we should be in control of this game, yet for some reason we looked like we were rushing things.
Sitting at the game it was clear the team lost it's composure, looked flat and looked fatigued, even during the 1st-Qtr when we banged through a string of goals it was obvious we had relied on one trick with BigH, Charlie and Cripps jumping form behind or the side to clunk marks, none of them were in front.

Later the reasons behind those poor decisions were obvious. The skills were not as bad as some suggest, and the underlying opposition tactics were not addressed by our coaching panel. CJ basically ran freely out of our F50, and our Mids in an array of 3 or 4 jogged behind relying on Owies, Fisher, Setterfield and LoB to bridge the gap. The only joy we got was seeing BigH chase down Dawks a couple of times, I was hoping to see a De Koning chase but he also looked flat.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #86 –
Quote from: Baggers – on
Agree. I reckon Durds is the best of our 3 small forwards... his defensive work, speed and opportunism will be missed.
Eddie thought so too, thats why he passed his number on to him.

I thought Motlop would've been a monty for it, brotherhood and all, but Eddie REALLY rated Durdin. Now we can see why.

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Reply #87 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Ill make a rather bold prediction and say Durds will surpass Eddie.

It'll be wonderful for him and us if he does, but its all down to luck (and his continuing hard work of course) but the point is that hes got "it"
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #88 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Durdin appears to really have something, whomever recruited him has a clue.

What surprised me the most on the day was CJ.   Last time we played the whorks I came away with the opinion that he was as clueless a player as I've seen,  maybe if we made him defend we might have seen a few more mistakes and panicky stuff.
Durdin showed ability when he played SANFL seniors and was highly regarded by the Crows but they decided on Stephen Rowe's kid instead....I'd be giving credit to Nick Austin who likes his SANFL players...

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Reply #89 –
Martin and Saad in, Boyd and Durdin (Covid protocols) out.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17