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Re: AFL Rd 14 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast

Reply #75 –
Agree on Cunningham EB....reckon he plays forward....bit of pace and he can find the goals.

Not sure Doch plays HF.....he'll be middle/half back. Maybe Jack Martin/Kennedy can share the medium size forward roles a bit. And TDK might have to push back a bit this week.....Young might not make the cut but it'll leave us a bit short down back. Kemp might be a good match up for Lukosius.

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Reply #76 –
By the way, how does Newman play, wasn't he listed as  2-4 weeks estimated return?

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Reply #77 –
Quote from: rocky – on
By the way, how does Newman play, wasn't he listed as  2-4 weeks estimated return?

So was Docherty when he returned.....maybe Saad too (at least there was someone else who did similar)

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Reply #78 –
Kennedy, Cunningham, Dow, Binns 
Pace required Kennedy / Dow midfield rotations , Binns on the wing, Cunners up forward. Doc to be the 7th defender.

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Reply #79 –
For me Newman is a huge inclusion, if he is fit, I'm not sure like a bunch of others that he has been fit for many weeks now.

He's the righthand for Weiters, make no mistake, he is as important to our D50 as any other player, he might not be the fastest, but he's got a footy brain 2nd to none!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #80 –
I know we shouldn't pick a side for any reason other than what's the best option on the day or maybe at a pinch for development purposes but...
Assuming he doesn't play, and that's a big assumption with this side... to drop Jack Silvagni the week after he's singled out for disgraceful, and very public abuse, probably isn't a great move for the guy's state of mind.

On the other hand, maybe they've had a discussion around it, perhaps including him, and with the bye coming up they do see it as a bit of release of pressure for Jack.

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Reply #81 –
He hasn't been playing well Lods
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #82 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
He hasn't been playing well Lods
Yes, it's not just the fact he's played out of position, even when he's been in F50 he's hardly had a touch.

Much like the SFs if you're the 3rd wheel in F50, you have make the very most of every opportunity because reality is you will be lucky to get just 2 or 3 per match even on a good day!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #83 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
He hasn't been playing well Lods

No, he hasn't and I can see a justification for his omission on that basis alone.
But he's not Robinson Crusoe in terms of playing below his capabilities.
And probably the events of last weekend shouldn't come into play.

It's just he's been kicked in the guts in a very public way and while he's been down on his haunches he's been given another one.

Hopefully he plays VFL and gives a really good account of himself.

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Reply #84 –
Quote from: Lods – on
It's just he's been kicked in the guts in a very public way and while he's been down on his haunches he's been given another one.

Hopefully he plays VFL and gives a really good account of himself.
While you might look at this prejudicially, if it was a no name like Cottrell or LoB and not a Silvagni would fans react the same?

If we stay truly impartial, if there is an imbalance over the long term, it actually seems to be in his favour yet ironically now some are claiming he has become the persecuted! The media will pick up on this fan bias, you can expect a series of articles about his future at the Aints or CheatsFC, but I think it's highly unlikely CheatsFC have any real interest, it's just Dodo throwing his old mate a bone!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #85 –
I don't buy the "played out of position" theory.  Sometimes you're just out of form. But we all know that he's much better than what he's showing at the moment.

That theory was posited regarding SPS, who was constantly being "played out of position", but subsequently it's been clear in two seasons at WCE that he's just a very average player.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #86 –
Quote from: LP – on
While you might look at this prejudicially, if it was a no name like Cottrell or LoB and not a Silvagni would fans react the same?

If we stay truly impartial, if there is an imbalance over the long term, it actually seems to be in his favour yet ironically now some are claiming he has become the persecuted! The media will pick up on this fan bias, you can expect a series of articles about his future at the Aints or CheatsFC, but I think it's highly unlikely CheatsFC have any real interest, it's just Dodo throwing his old mate a bone!


I'd think I'd feel pretty much the same if that had happened to either of Cottrell and LOB.
It wouldn't though because they're names not Silvagni.

If one of our blokes had been abused in that fashion and then dropped the following week it wouldn't sit well.

To the point of his name.
He has always been held to a higher standard by Carlton people because of his name.
Some folks seem to think it works in his favour, I've always thought it was a bit of a burden.
But it's a cross he'll have to bear while he stays at this club.

Yes, he should be in the frame for omission, but while we have three small forwards who collectively contribute very little, there's plenty of competition for the chop.
The fact is he's probably given way because both Pittonet and Cunningham have been named, and that pushes him out of two spots he could possibly fill.
Jack Martin's 'almost' performance probably saves him, but gee, the bloke needs to play for more than ten minutes.

 

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Reply #87 –
I'm with you on that one Lods, JSoS is clearly omitted because Pitt + TdK are selected, but the other forwards aren't earning their keep.  Another nothing game from Martin and I'd put a line through him - the bloke has received more opportunities than most of the list and given nothing.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #88 –
Yep
For team balance it probably makes sense
...and maybe I'm over-reacting.
Players get abused every week...it's just the very personal and very 'public' nature of this one that's triggered me.

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Reply #89 –
Quote from: Lods – on
Yep
For team balance it probably makes sense
...and maybe I'm over-reacting.
Players get abused every week...it's just the very personal and very 'public' nature of this one that's triggered me.
I’m 100% with you and I’d like to whack the guy that abused him in such a manner. Low dog act