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Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #75
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Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #76
I'd bring Binns in.  It's all about run this week.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #77
Teams under estimate players like Cox and Mihocek and this is part of the reason why the Pies have done so well. Cox is no great ruckman or KP Forward but he is a hard to dominate against and thats where his value is, he also has that habit of taking big marks and kicking straight when it matters and is far from the bumbling idiot who first graced the MCG years ago. To be honest Id have more faith in Cox giving Collingwood something than I would Young giving us a solid game of football at the present time....his loss of form remains a mystery and in terms of softness he would be leading the Quilton medal.

Who in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??
195  Weitering?
192  Kemp?
191   McGovern?
202   Young?
Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall  target.


Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #78

Who in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??
195  Weitering?
192  Kemp?
191   McGovern?
202   Young?
Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall  target.


Got no doubt Young is the best matchup for Cox height wise and will probably start on him if he plays but given his recent form it's not a matchup Im confident about winning.
Don't mind McGovern going forward as I think we just can't leave Charlie as the only tall marking option.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #79
There won't be easy crumbs against the Filth D50 who are all strongly built, agile and quick, plus they get at least one Daicos or Sidebottom for assistance.

Moore usually starts off by punching BigH in the side of the head, so I expect Charlie cops one like that early, sorry Ump I was just stretching to spoil! Reminds me of that day Warnock was ended by a Handbagger, a classic round arm spoil!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #80
Where will we lose this one ??

At the selection table ...... nothing surer !!!
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Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #81
Who in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??
195  Weitering?
192  Kemp?
191   McGovern?
202   Young?
Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall  target.

Nobody has answered my question though.

Who plays 2nd key forward next to Charlie?
If Young is playing on Cox, when Cox is forward, TDK is in the ruck and Charlie is by himself up forward.

Playing Pitto allows TDK to play forward and give charlie a chopout.
You'd almost play both Young and Pitto as well as TDK and Charlie.
But if i was going to play just one of Young and Pitto, it'd be Pitto because that helps our forward line.

Think of it this way. If Charlie is our sole key forward, what would you do if you were Collingwood? Double/triple team him?!
Who will kick our goals otherwise??

To help drive that point home lets look at our top goal kickers for 2023.
1. Charlie - 61
2. McKay - 26 - injured
3. Owies - 17 - injured
4. Motlop - 16 - injured last week
5. Silvagni - 14 - injured
6. Durdin - 10 - injured
7. Cerra - 8 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury
8. Cottrell - 6
=9. Martin - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury
=9. Cripps - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury
=9. Docherty - 5

Thats our top 12 goalkickers for the year, 5 are not playing and 3 are a test.

We need TDK to play forward.
Thus, we need Pitto to play ruck.

Young vs Cox is another debate.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #82
Nobody has answered my question though.

Who plays 2nd key forward next to Charlie?
If Young is playing on Cox, when Cox is forward, TDK is in the ruck and Charlie is by himself up forward.

Kemp....they won't be expecting that. ;)  ;D
He plays the Silvagni role.

 

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #83
I'd bring Binns in.  It's all about run this week.
They'll slaughter a first gamer.
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
2025-Carlton can win the 2025 AFL Premiership

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #84
Kemp....they won't be expecting that. ;)  ;D
He plays the Silvagni role.

I think Kemp is =25th on our goal kicking list for 2023 with a grand total of 1 goal.

Yep. Wouldn't be expecting it, sure.
Not sure it'll actually help though. ;)


Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #86
Nobody has answered my question though.

Who plays 2nd key forward next to Charlie?
If Young is playing on Cox, when Cox is forward, TDK is in the ruck and Charlie is by himself up forward.

Playing Pitto allows TDK to play forward and give charlie a chopout.
You'd almost play both Young and Pitto as well as TDK and Charlie.
But if i was going to play just one of Young and Pitto, it'd be Pitto because that helps our forward line.

Think of it this way. If Charlie is our sole key forward, what would you do if you were Collingwood? Double/triple team him?!
Who will kick our goals otherwise??

To help drive that point home lets look at our top goal kickers for 2023.
1. Charlie - 61
2. McKay - 26 - injured
3. Owies - 17 - injured
4. Motlop - 16 - injured last week
5. Silvagni - 14 - injured
6. Durdin - 10 - injured
7. Cerra - 8 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury
8. Cottrell - 6
=9. Martin - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury
=9. Cripps - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury
=9. Docherty - 5

Thats our top 12 goalkickers for the year, 5 are not playing and 3 are a test.

We need TDK to play forward.
Thus, we need Pitto to play ruck.

Young vs Cox is another debate.
McGovern ...

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #87
I'd be playing Pitto this week and letting TDK play a bit more forward....which sounds strange given how good his last few weeks have been. But with no other tall forwards, it'll allow Pies to double team Charlie with Moore and Howe making it pretty tough for us to find some scoring options.

Cripps is touch and go unfortunately.

But you never know.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #88
I think Kemp is =25th on our goal kicking list for 2023 with a grand total of 1 goal.

Yep. Wouldn't be expecting it, sure.
Not sure it'll actually help though. ;)

Opportunities??
12th in the whole AFL for average marks per game.
At the very least he would require a minder and take a bit of attention away from Curnow...and maybe have a bearing on Moore's intercept marking.

Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #89
Leaders have got to lead.

If Charlie is solo, then Cripps or Weiters can float forward!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"