Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #75 – July 25, 2023, 07:09:05 pm Congratulations to George Hewett on his 150th. May it be a game to remember. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #76 – July 26, 2023, 07:52:54 am I'd bring Binns in. It's all about run this week. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #77 – July 26, 2023, 09:25:00 am Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on July 25, 2023, 06:35:38 pmTeams under estimate players like Cox and Mihocek and this is part of the reason why the Pies have done so well. Cox is no great ruckman or KP Forward but he is a hard to dominate against and thats where his value is, he also has that habit of taking big marks and kicking straight when it matters and is far from the bumbling idiot who first graced the MCG years ago. To be honest Id have more faith in Cox giving Collingwood something than I would Young giving us a solid game of football at the present time....his loss of form remains a mystery and in terms of softness he would be leading the Quilton medal.Who in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??195 Weitering?192 Kemp?191 McGovern?202 Young?Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall target. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #78 – July 26, 2023, 10:10:09 am Quote from: townsendcalling – on July 26, 2023, 09:25:00 amWho in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??195 Weitering?192 Kemp?191 McGovern?202 Young?Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall target.Got no doubt Young is the best matchup for Cox height wise and will probably start on him if he plays but given his recent form it's not a matchup Im confident about winning.Don't mind McGovern going forward as I think we just can't leave Charlie as the only tall marking option. Quote Selected Last Edit: July 26, 2023, 10:12:04 am by ElwoodBlues1
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #79 – July 26, 2023, 12:13:27 pm There won't be easy crumbs against the Filth D50 who are all strongly built, agile and quick, plus they get at least one Daicos or Sidebottom for assistance.Moore usually starts off by punching BigH in the side of the head, so I expect Charlie cops one like that early, sorry Ump I was just stretching to spoil! Reminds me of that day Warnock was ended by a Handbagger, a classic round arm spoil! Quote Selected Last Edit: July 26, 2023, 12:15:41 pm by LP
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #80 – July 26, 2023, 01:13:27 pm Where will we lose this one ??At the selection table ...... nothing surer !!! Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #81 – July 26, 2023, 01:45:02 pm Quote from: townsendcalling – on July 26, 2023, 09:25:00 amWho in our backline will stop a 211 cm giant from marking in the forward line??195 Weitering?192 Kemp?191 McGovern?202 Young?Cox can do 2 things quite well.....mark and kick straight. He's not an instinctive footballer. Young spoils well. Neither are great ruckmen. By having Young 'tag' Cox you cover your lack of height down back AND your second ruck dilemma. TDK plays better as top dog and Pittonet's lack of speed will be shown up against the Pies. Play McGovern up forward as your second tall target.Nobody has answered my question though.Who plays 2nd key forward next to Charlie?If Young is playing on Cox, when Cox is forward, TDK is in the ruck and Charlie is by himself up forward.Playing Pitto allows TDK to play forward and give charlie a chopout.You'd almost play both Young and Pitto as well as TDK and Charlie.But if i was going to play just one of Young and Pitto, it'd be Pitto because that helps our forward line.Think of it this way. If Charlie is our sole key forward, what would you do if you were Collingwood? Double/triple team him?!Who will kick our goals otherwise??To help drive that point home lets look at our top goal kickers for 2023.1. Charlie - 612. McKay - 26 - injured3. Owies - 17 - injured4. Motlop - 16 - injured last week5. Silvagni - 14 - injured6. Durdin - 10 - injured7. Cerra - 8 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury8. Cottrell - 6=9. Martin - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury=9. Cripps - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury=9. Docherty - 5Thats our top 12 goalkickers for the year, 5 are not playing and 3 are a test.We need TDK to play forward.Thus, we need Pitto to play ruck.Young vs Cox is another debate. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #82 – July 26, 2023, 03:17:01 pm Quote from: kruddler – on July 26, 2023, 01:45:02 pmNobody has answered my question though.Who plays 2nd key forward next to Charlie?If Young is playing on Cox, when Cox is forward, TDK is in the ruck and Charlie is by himself up forward.Kemp....they won't be expecting that. He plays the Silvagni role. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #83 – July 26, 2023, 04:13:03 pm Quote from: Professer E – on July 26, 2023, 07:52:54 amI'd bring Binns in. It's all about run this week.They'll slaughter a first gamer. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #84 – July 26, 2023, 04:20:59 pm Quote from: Lods – on July 26, 2023, 03:17:01 pmKemp....they won't be expecting that. He plays the Silvagni role.I think Kemp is =25th on our goal kicking list for 2023 with a grand total of 1 goal.Yep. Wouldn't be expecting it, sure.Not sure it'll actually help though. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #85 – July 26, 2023, 04:37:29 pm Quote from: Gointocarlton – on July 26, 2023, 04:13:03 pmThey'll slaughter a first gamer. Yep....look who goes through the wings for the Pies. I would have played Binns vs West Coast and given him a confidence building game. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #86 – July 26, 2023, 04:40:01 pm Quote from: kruddler – on July 26, 2023, 01:45:02 pmNobody has answered my question though.Who plays 2nd key forward next to Charlie?If Young is playing on Cox, when Cox is forward, TDK is in the ruck and Charlie is by himself up forward.Playing Pitto allows TDK to play forward and give charlie a chopout.You'd almost play both Young and Pitto as well as TDK and Charlie.But if i was going to play just one of Young and Pitto, it'd be Pitto because that helps our forward line.Think of it this way. If Charlie is our sole key forward, what would you do if you were Collingwood? Double/triple team him?!Who will kick our goals otherwise??To help drive that point home lets look at our top goal kickers for 2023.1. Charlie - 612. McKay - 26 - injured3. Owies - 17 - injured4. Motlop - 16 - injured last week5. Silvagni - 14 - injured6. Durdin - 10 - injured7. Cerra - 8 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury8. Cottrell - 6=9. Martin - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury=9. Cripps - 5 - Didn't play last week coming back from injury=9. Docherty - 5Thats our top 12 goalkickers for the year, 5 are not playing and 3 are a test.We need TDK to play forward.Thus, we need Pitto to play ruck.Young vs Cox is another debate.McGovern ... Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #87 – July 26, 2023, 04:45:16 pm I'd be playing Pitto this week and letting TDK play a bit more forward....which sounds strange given how good his last few weeks have been. But with no other tall forwards, it'll allow Pies to double team Charlie with Moore and Howe making it pretty tough for us to find some scoring options.Cripps is touch and go unfortunately.But you never know. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #88 – July 26, 2023, 04:52:45 pm Quote from: kruddler – on July 26, 2023, 04:20:59 pmI think Kemp is =25th on our goal kicking list for 2023 with a grand total of 1 goal.Yep. Wouldn't be expecting it, sure.Not sure it'll actually help though. Opportunities??12th in the whole AFL for average marks per game.At the very least he would require a minder and take a bit of attention away from Curnow...and maybe have a bearing on Moore's intercept marking. Quote Selected
Re: AFL Rd 20 2023 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood Reply #89 – July 26, 2023, 04:55:35 pm Leaders have got to lead.If Charlie is solo, then Cripps or Weiters can float forward! Quote Selected