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Reply #30 –
A future Weitering definitely. Young and others on our list at the moment, are not going to be up to it.
Lemmey looked good today, but needs to keep it up. He's a guy we're developing.
Hewett and Kennedy are very capable role player replacements if Cripps goes down. The Camporeales will come to us next year. Lucas looks like more of a wingman, nothing wrong with yet another one for depth. Ben looks like a medium-sized midfielder. What's his point of difference for us?

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Reply #31 –
We have a 3-4 year window min imo with the current list. If we are smart we could extend that for another few years but even if we dont the current crop while not without room for improvement you only have to beat the lists we are against and imo our list is as good as anyones. There is no power house club in the next few years so no reason to not believe we cant win a flag in this period. Maybe even 2. And all this nonsense about not wanting to make it this year as we may lose and it hurts too much is rubbish. You can only win one when you risk losing one.
We have some big weapons and great footballers at the moment - lets embrace this period and enjoy the ride and go for it.

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Reply #32 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Swingman potential has McMahon and impressed today, needs some more kg's to play good senior footy vs heavier bodies but he has the skills. Id see him as depth to cover for our KP's, Lemmey does some ok things but doesnt seem to impact the game as much at this stage but he is still very inexperienced and needs another season to get fitter and learn the game.

The Magoos are also rans and I’d like to see them take the opportunity to try players in different roles.

If McMahon has the tank, he could be a wingman with a point of difference 🤔
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #33 –
Quote from: DJC – on
The Magoos are also rans and I’d like to see them take the opportunity to try players in different roles.

If McMahon has the tank, he could be a wingman with a point of difference 🤔
He could probably play that Nick Cox role on a wing and sneak down forward...be more of a rookie pick for me than immediate senior list material.
I was impressed when he played down back one game and marked everything that came his way...don't mind Lewis either.

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Reply #34 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
He could probably play that Nick Cox role on a wing and sneak down forward...be more of a rookie pick for me than immediate senior list material.
I was impressed when he played down back one game and marked everything that came his way...don't mind Lewis either.
I think when fit Cottrell has one wing covered, and can't see anyone supplanting Acres.

Does McMahon lacks the pace needed to create space at the AFL level?

Also, next season we have SoJ back who in my opinion is another good wing option, perhaps SoJ's best position.

Selection is going to be very interesting in the coming weeks, Cerra, Martin and Motlop all potentially returning.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #35 –
Cerra yes.  Martin and Motlop....play some good footy in the twos first.  I think the Martin boat has sailed.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

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Reply #36 –
Quote from: LP – on
I think when fit Cottrell has one wing covered, and can't see anyone supplanting Acres.

Does McMahon lacks the pace needed to create space at the AFL level?

Also, next season we have SoJ back who in my opinion is another good wing option, perhaps SoJ's best position.

Selection is going to be very interesting in the coming weeks, Cerra, Martin and Motlop all potentially returning.
Thought we struggled on the wings vs Essendon....Acres was down and I thought Setterfield was a decent player and on the other wing I thought Ollie only had the 10 possessions and has been down on form for a while unlike his brother who has been getting better each week. With Cerra and Cottrell back I reckon Ollie wont be a starter....

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Reply #37 –
Quote from: Professer E – on
Cerra yes.  Martin and Motlop....play some good footy in the twos first.  I think the Martin boat has sailed.
Agree.....Martin might make a good sub for some X factor (Stuart Dew style) in the finals but he wont be adding any pace and I think E Hollands has taken his spot down forward. Cerra is an automatic and Motlop might have to fight it out Durdin, Fantasia and maybe Owies for a place but my preference is Owies.

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Reply #38 –
Just have to be smart about our recruiting.
Newman, Doc, Williams have at least another 2-3 years in them despite their age. You can play into your mid 30s these days if been keeping well and in form. Hawkins, Pendelbury, Boak, Taylor Walker etc etc - players can play for longer than 10-15 years ago imo.

Jack Reiwoldt played good footy until he was 34 years old. Our top enders have plenty left in them their raw talent will keep their form up.

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Reply #39 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Thought we struggled on the wings vs Essendon....Acres was down and I thought Setterfield was a decent player and on the other wing I thought Ollie only had the 10 possessions and has been down on form for a while unlike his brother who has been getting better each week. With Cerra and Cottrell back I reckon Ollie wont be a starter....
I think at the moment Ollie struggles a bit against the faster sides with heavier bodies, his aerobic capacity gets him to all the right places but can't break free of the contests, and then he often gets stuck chasing blokes he can't catch after a turnover. Another pre-season will fix a lot of the strength issues and he'll deal with the contests much better.
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #40 –
Quote from: LP – on
I think when fit Cottrell has one wing covered, and can't see anyone supplanting Acres.

Does McMahon lacks the pace needed to create space at the AFL level?

Also, next season we have SoJ back who in my opinion is another good wing option, perhaps SoJ's best position.

Selection is going to be very interesting in the coming weeks, Cerra, Martin and Motlop all potentially returning.

Except Cottrell hasn't played on the wing all season.  He has been playing as a high half forward since midway through last season and is playing his best ever footy in that role.  In his own words, "People don't come to the footy to watch a half-forward run his patterns. They come for Charlie Curnow, not a high half-forward whose job it is to connect with the winger. But it's a good role, it suits my game and the way I play."

If Jack Silvagni ever plays as a winger, he will spend half the game chasing after a speedy opponent before being subbed out.  Jack's best position is as a lead up forward.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!

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Reply #41 –
The labels and where they stand under the 6-6-6 are largely irrelevant, it's where they go in general play that matters and Cottrell and Acres basically mirror each other on opposite sides of the ground from the back pocket to full forward.

Cottrell might have SoJ covered for pace, but I doubt Acres does!

As far as I'm concerned SoJ's very best games and quarters all came with him running the wing. The wing isn't just about pace, it's about aerobic capacity and willpower, that should be fairly obvious to us having just watched the Nik Cox push up and down the field for 4 qtrs last weekend causing havoc for us at both ends of the ground.

Fraser Gehrig says hello!
"Extremists on either side will always meet in the Middle!"

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Reply #42 –
What to do with Silvagni when he returns is an interesting question.

I see him as taking Kennedy's role.
The question though is... if everyone was fit would Kennedy be playing.

Silvagni is the ideal bench player (not sub), but a player who can provide rests for a number of different positions

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Reply #43 –
Quote from: Lods – on
What to do with Silvagni when he returns is an interesting question.

I see him as taking Kennedy's role.
The question though is... if everyone was fit would Kennedy be playing.

Silvagni is the ideal bench player (not sub), but a player who can provide rests for a number of different positions

Needs to come back ready to play.  I worry that SOS biggest weakness after an acl might be amplified and that's his lack of leg speed.  He's got a heart as big as phar lap and he won't be going off of the list too soon, but I think he's missed most of our recent matches where we've changed gears and become a better side.  There's room for him in the team but it might be as a specialist sub.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #44 –
Quote from: LP – on
The labels and where they stand under the 6-6-6 are largely irrelevant, it's where they go in general play that matters and Cottrell and Acres basically mirror each other on opposite sides of the ground from the back pocket to full forward.

Cottrell might have SoJ covered for pace, but I doubt Acres does!

As far as I'm concerned SoJ's very best games and quarters all came with him running the wing. The wing isn't just about pace, it's about aerobic capacity and willpower, that should be fairly obvious to us having just watched the Nik Cox push up and down the field for 4 qtrs last weekend causing havoc for us at both ends of the ground.

Fraser Gehrig says hello!

You know what LP, I reckon Cottrell knows what his role is and he says it’s connecting with the winger, ie Acres and Hollands.

Silvagni, as a lead up forward, often works up the ground and gets possessions on the wing.  That doesn’t make him a winger … and never will.
It's still the Gulf of Mexico, Don Old!